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What a horrible sensationalist headline. It reads as if the malware was baked into the PinePhone.

When you read "Linux malware", do you interpret it as "malware baked into Linux"?

In this case, I definitely interpreted it as "baked into PinePhone" like the commenter.

Admittedly the same headline that says "iPhone Malware Surprises Users" would probably read the other way. It depends a bit on the subject. If it said "Lenovo Malware Surprises Users" I'd it expect it baked in too rather than just malware that just effects Lenovos.

"Malware for PinePhone" would make it clearer.

Thank you, I see this viewpoint better now. Not certain I'd make the headline different knowing this, but this is good to keep in mind.

> In this case, I definitely interpreted it as "baked into PinePhone" like the commenter.

Pinephone doesn’t make software, it just makes hardware. It’s philosophy is they make hardware that’s easy to hack. All the software is community maintained and not official.

I also read it as "baked into PinePhone". As to why, well the headline didn't include the fact that the PinePhone ships with no software. So that's not information I had at the time.

Most SBC don’t come with software.

I was wrong the new ones do have software but nothing official, so its not really baked as much as random distros from random people.

Pinephone ships with software, and aside maybe from some early dev units, it always did.

What does it ship with? I don’t thing mine did, and Pine64’s philosophy was we make the hardware, you make the software, aside from PineBook’s KDE edition off the top of my head.

UT, Manjaro, Mobian, pmOS. Even the back covers had logos of what each batch shipped with. Now it's just Manjaro on all the Beta phones.

That they don't write the software doesn't mean they don't ship with it.

Thanks! I don’t remember mine having it but it had been a while, the unlocked bootloader is a security threat that xiaomi had where malware was flashed, so it’s probably a good idea they don’t ship with software for security reasons, it’s such an easy target.

To be fair if I were to read it paired with, 'surprises users' like this headline - I might be prone to assuming an out-of-the-box discovery

Bad news for something I like procedure chart:

"Works on my machine"

Headline sounds sensationalist

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Claim author has an agenda

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Blame the media

Blame Trump/Biden (or in tech, FAANG)

The pinephone sounds like a fun hobby project, but if you expect kid gloves treatment about it, no one will take it seriously.

FAANG is dead. The New Acronym is MANGA

I like MAMANG, my man.

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