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> We want to thank Citizen Lab for sharing a sample of the FORCEDENTRY exploit with us, and Apple’s Security Engineering and Architecture (SEAR) group for collaborating with us on the technical analysis.

This reminded me that NSO went after Citizen Lab on multiple fronts. They even tried to use a spy to talk to JSR (https://www.johnscottrailton.com) and make him say controversial things, which could be later used to malign Citizen Lab. Darknet Diaries covered this incident recently: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/99/

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The transcript is such an intriguing read. You don't expect these things to happen in real life, but yet here they are, tie-cameras, pen recorders, driving circles around the block and all.

100% with you on this one. My life feels so boring in comparison!

Darknet Diaries is so good. To anyone who hasn't listened, highly recommend. Jack hits a homerun each week and the story about JSR and NSO was buck wild

every other week release for the podcast, not weekly*

every other week release for STORIES FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE INTERNET*

Jack is awesome. Btw, I must give credit to many in the HN community who have recommended this podcast so many time in various threads. On my own I would have never found it.

I wish they would write articles too.. I don't have the patience to listen to podcasts :) But I've been told it's really good.

A good podcast app may help. For slower podcasts, instead of speeding it up - which may chipmunk or otherwise cause artifacts - podcast addict trims silence. You may miss stuff below the gate threshold, but it is still slick.

I only listen to 2 podcasts, I don't really and have never really liked the format. I prefer reading with music or silence, and have always loved weblogs for that. However, it's worth a shot to find a podcast app that "clicks" with your style of input.

With podcasting 2.0, the new features should allow producers that don't want to be part of an ecosystem to still make some income, plus you get streaming album art where supported, and liner notes and all sorts of other goodies.

I think podcastindex has a list of compatible 2.0 podcasting apps, but I'm unable to check.

yeah it really is refreshing to hear a podcast for the masses that actually gets technical details correct. It's a pet peeve when people simplify it and get it really wrong.

He sometimes messes up the small details, but frankly they’re tiny enough that it doesn’t destroy the overall experience

https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/15/pegasus-spyware-maker-nso-run...

hopefully this company is on the way out...

I'd assume they're using the Erik Prince/Constellis business model, taking some time off and getting the band back together under a different name to do the same work.

I think when you are providing such a valuable service, there is almost zero chance they just stop.

Yep. The way I think about it in mainstream terms is, "Jeffrey Epstein's clients didn't just stop wanting what he was providing, someone took his place. Who is that?"

I literally just listened to this episode today. Some crazy stuff.

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