Maybe, but it's in a context of strong Chinese = Enemy thinking that has been plaguing American academia the last years: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/28/world/asia/china-universi... https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/wrongly-prosecuted-chine...
But I am wondering why you are framing it like its no bid deal. How much does China share with the US?
There is a history of IP theft, and its not for the betterment of mankind it's self interest. You could point fingers but then the whole world goes blind.
Nationalism is blindness, better to be patriotic but not blind.
It's not also anywhere near as clear cut in self interest as you say. Even within China, Chinese companies aren't given that much IP protection.
In the end 1.4 billion people are better off for it. I struggle to see how mankind isn't better off for it.
Was it really stealing?
The British pretty much did nothing to stop it nor protected their IP. They certainly didn't strongly enforce it.
Contrast that with Chinese theft; as soon as counterfeit products or patent infringing ones make it to US soil they are promptly seized and destroyed if found to be infringing the laws.
I think publishers in the young United States, having no copyright laws on sheet music, blatantly copied sheet music from British publishers. However, I'm not able to find a source on that.
Did he? There's no evidence for that.
To me, it sounds like a smart Harvard grad just figured out a few missing pieces required to get textile manufacturing going. Wasn't his first time doing industrial processes at scale either: he successfully ran a distillery before that.
It's also interesting to remember that it happened at a time England was in open war against the United States. It's not really the same right now with Chinese companies trying to get into the US market and vice versa. Both countries claim to be allied but there's a clear disregard for the laws of one particular country!
Maybe a better analogy to what Francis Lowell did would be operation paperclip. The US did steal technology from Germany at the end of the war [0].
What is the US response? I don't even know.
>increasing threats of sanctions
So threats, no real sanctions, not that the steel sanctions did anything, somehow Vietnam started selling us all their steel after we sanction China for other reasons.
What happened? Nobody will be discouraged by such a short term sentence, and be emboldened by its opportunity cost.
Also, China is pretty different in that the PLA allows their researchers to publish a lot of research that gives away their capabilities in sensitive domains like EW and submarine warfare. I'm not sure they would react massively to something that doesn't even entail any information leaking.
Can you tell me more or what to look for? I just remember an Israel stole some classified stuff and was sent to prison, an ally stealing secrets but I thought it was a rare occurrence.
Have you also spent most of last year accusing George Floyd protesters of downplaying the importance of paying for cigarettes?
Yes. The betterment of the human race is an unintended consequence. Real but.
> The NIH and the FBI are targeting ethnic Chinese scientists, including U.S. citizens, searching for a cancer cure. Here’s the first account of what happened to Xifeng Wu.
> Her resignation, and the departures in recent months of three other top Chinese American scientists from Houston-based MD Anderson, stem from a Trump administration drive to counter Chinese influence at U.S. research institutions. The aim is to stanch China’s well-documented and costly theft of U.S. innovation and know-how. The collateral effect, however, is to stymie basic science, the foundational research that underlies new medical treatments. Everything is commodified in the economic cold war with China, including the struggle to find a cure for cancer.
> Ways of working that have long been encouraged by the NIH and many research institutions, particularly MD Anderson, are now quasi-criminalized, with FBI agents reading private emails, stopping Chinese scientists at airports, and visiting people’s homes to ask about their loyalty.
Like in above case where the person is being entangled into an IRS tax evasion case, these people are being ethnically targeted, questions, harassed, their constitutional rights being trampled upon.
They manufacture all the American goods for cheap, to benefit themselves but to say there is no partnership is not honest.
>How much does China share with the US?
They use manpower, for IP they ignore the IP laws usually, so if you mean sciences, there are frequent collaborations.
>There is a history of IP theft
The US did not enforce IP laws until they had a sizable amount to use as leverage, I see China doing the same.
>and its not for the betterment of mankind it's self interest.
Self interest does not have to be a zero sum game. Oil baron enriched themselves and also provided cheap oil.
Outsourcing labor to China has diminished the US so much. It is like the Heroin of economics for Americans.
Whose fault is that? China's for taking the deal?
You forgot that last part. China's trade dealings are outright hostile. China's overlooking slave-wages, and suicides tied to working conditions or lack thereof.
China must be considered /by all/ to be an enemy of the rest of the globe.
This is not saying that the Chinese populace are enemies, but the Chinese Government, which controls the populace, is most definitely so.
This is a mostly western view since westerners engaged in a zero sum conflict with the oldest super power on the planet to gain temporary economic advantages for the last 100 years or so... most of the world doesn't agree with that view of China even with the $ billions ($trillions?) of anti-Chinese propaganda spending by the west.
America as the world police/bully and China leverages itself by being slightly better. The US should offer a better deal than China can, its better than bombing the shit out of people, scaring them with weapons, and having them hate us for killing their countrymen or family.
And don't even think about saying it is not forcing them, because I have lived in two such countries in Central America where Taiwan was a hefty money donor.
From a realpolitik standpoint, you can choose a small island that makes mostly advanced microchips or a large country that makes everything. Are you going to say they didn't make a rational choice in allies?