I mean you responded as if you think I was using HN comments as a representative sample and not as an illustrative anecdote...

> Even "essentially no access to services" is closer access to services than the common exurban commuting distance.

Okay... But it's not a one-to-one replacement... A single two-way commute might be replaced by significant drives to the grocery store, restaurants, schools, after-school activities, etc...

Honestly, despite all of this discussion, I think the idea that commutes will be broadly eliminated long-term is the bigger assumption than general suburban driving being a net positive compared to commuting or vice versa.