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Note that there are two “FSD Beta” programs:

1. The paid software unlock for “Full Self Driving” (currently in “beta”) available to everyone, which provides automatic driving from on-ramp to off-ramp, and a handful of parking features like auto-park and summon: https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot#usingautopilot

2. The invite-only “FSD Beta” that unlocks the above FSD features on city streets, which is available to a subset of customers w/#1 who have very high Tesla Safety Scores.

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I feel confused why 1) they would call both programs by the same name (arguing that an acronym is pretty much the same name) and 2) why the government even allows them to call it Full Self Driving, when there are levels of autonomous driving and I imagine most would assume Full means the highest level, which, Tesla has not yet achieved from everything I've read.

If you wanted to stall and mire an investigation in process then having two separate systems named almost exactly the same thing and constantly quibbling over semantics of them would be a good way to do it.

> I imagine most would assume Full means the highest level

USB 2.0 got away with Full Speed/High Speed (with high being more than full)

USB failures likely don't result in the serious injury or death of the user

Maybe with a USB "full speed" I assume it's the fastest that the current USB could go. For some reason, with self driving, the modifier "full" makes me think level 5 autonomy, which I'm almost certain it does not have.

Actually, NHTSA defines[0] level 5 as: "An automated driving system (ADS) on the vehicle can do all the driving in all circumstances. The human occupants are just passengers and need never be involved in driving."

[0]: https://www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicl...

> Maybe with a USB "full speed" I assume it's the fastest that the current USB could go.

That's correct; "Full speed" refers to the higher speed profile for USB1.1. It's a historical artifact, at this point, and wasn't generally used for marketing purposes.

"I Can't Believe It's Not Self-Driving"

Those weren't marketing names; that is, no-one was being presented with devices labeled "USB Full Speed (meaning USB1.1 full speed)" and buying them on the basis that that must be better than "USB High Speed".

“Beta” classification for the former is a post facto excuse after a fatal crash(there were naturally several). The latter is actual unfinished software(called Beta but more of Alpha/PoC).

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