Standing desks are on the rise
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The biggest obstacles were that I'm 6'4" tall and need a desk that can support 3 big monitors.
I ended up making my own (admittedly non on the fly adjustable) standing desk out of shelf track - the closet shelf system they sell at Home Depot or wherever.
My keyboard shelf is 40 inches high and the monitor shelf is 52 inches high.
Total costs were around $100 and it only took an evening to put together.
[EDIT] - Pics of build and final desk at - https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3175742/1/StandingDesk?h=8d1...
Here are a few more pics of what I ended up with: http://imperialwicket.com/diy-adjustable-stand-up-desk-for-u...
I have two 24" screens hooked up to my 27" iMac.
The leftmost one is rather slow to refresh, so I use it mostly for our company geckoboard dashboard and for autotest output. The right monitor is a Dell Ultrasharp with component inputs from the Xbox and Wii.
About half the time I don't even turn it on, but when I do, I find that .7mph (the lowest setting) is just enough to keep me moving without having to think about it.
I keep my cpu's on a cart on the floor, and if I ever get tired of the arrangement, I still have a shelving unit. I'm about 1 month into this arrangement, but no problems yet, and it definitely helps to keep me alert and focused.
Both of these are from Denmark and for the past 14 years of working as a software developer there, I have always had adjustable desks. They are simply everywhere and it was only recently that I realized that this is not the situation world wide (I currently live in Spain and I had to order mine from Denmark!).
This makes me wonder if there is an untapped market in, say, the US for these? I could never go back and I think most people who have tried wouldn't. It's not only the matter of standing up -- just making small adjustments during the day when you change position a bit feels really good and I am sure is good for the back etc.
Mine is from http://www.conset.dk (Danish) by the way. Huge selection of frames (one, two or more columns) and you specify your tabletop yourself (size, position and dimensions of the cut-in, bezel, finishing (oak/maple/cherry)), all online.
You can see a variety of these with a simple Google image search. Your legs just rest comfortably underneath your body, so you don't strain your back trying to counterbalance your leg (the main problem with chairs). I have a cheapo office chair and a $75 kneeling chair that I switch between (basically just when I feel any twinge of discomfort). After getting used to this setup, I don't really have any back pain.
It reads as an ad as much as a newspaper article.
I even wrote a set of Perl scripts to keep track of how much time I spend sitting vs. standing, and how it changes over time.
The only problem is that I don't know of any good studies on what stand / sit ratio is medically recommended. Too low and you get back and other muscle problems; too high and you get joint problems.
The fix in that situation would be to work on basic leg and core strength. A set of ankle weights, straight leg raises, side leg raises, calf raises, some basic "good all around" core exercises (forget the crunches, think plank) can really help you avoid joint-related issues from standing all day.
See also: http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/13/the-dangers-of-sitting...
> I even wrote a set of Perl scripts to keep track of how much time I spend sitting vs. standing, and how it changes over time.
And my first thought was "that's totally something raldi would do".
I didn't notice your username until two more comments down.
Mainly, they claim that I will spend a lot of time making small movements -- shifting weight from side to side, repositioning myself, etc. -- and these movements of my spine are beneficial. Evidently, these kinds of movements (and also a lot of walking) move the fluids and nutrients in the spinal cord that keep the intervertebral discs vital.
I purchased a (relatively) inexpensive hand-cranked base from http://www.kitchensource.com/table-bases/gb-1000-1001.htm. I also got a cheap ($30) 48" x 24" x 2" wooden tabletop which I was able to sand, finish, and easily mount to the base. I added a desk-mounted monitor arm (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001IWOBGI). The price for all of this compares extremely favorably to most other adjustable desks I've found.
This setup has been a huge help for my back issues. If I were to try to quantify the cost of having a sore back that renders me unable to be active, it'd be vastly higher than what I payed for this setup. If I am offered a position where I need to go into an office, I would make offering me a similar setup a precondition of me accepting the offer.
I needed to find a separate small stand for the optical mouse too, and I do sometimes wish I had a little more surface area at keyboard height. Still, it's cheaper and easier to install than a dedicated standing desk... and very easy to "uninstall" if you change your mind.
If you try this, be sure to put a piece of cloth or paper underneath the blocks, so that they don't scratch the desk surface. You also will probably want to get something decorative to cover the blocks; molded concrete isn't the most attractive office decor :)
I had one set up for standing, and a second set low for computer (so my rising chair could be used).
Following all the rage around these I might look at grabbing a tall saddle stool and adjust the computer desk unto standing height as well.
What I want is a solution that's easy to setup, and is portable. I work at a variety of locations and would like some mechanism for turning any surface into a standing workstation. I think I may whip up a few prototypes in my spare time.
Pretty portable too I guess. You'd need someone to help you lift the desk on/off the blocks.
However, it's not really advertised in any of their catalogs, but I've been told they still carry it and you have to ask for it. Not sure about availability in the US.
I've been thinking that a laptop tripod would be nice. Googling around, I see that there are some out there, but they are too short and look too flimsy.
I think a solution could be rigged up with a good, sturdy surveying tripod.
You could probably find a used astronomy tripod (used to hold a large telescope and then position it precisely) that's out of spec for astronomy use but that would hold your laptop just fine.
The bigger problem lie in what motivates us to spend so long at our desks without breaks. I think there's a culture of "strap the developer to his chair" that we need to break out of.
If you're taking breaks every 2 to 3 hours to stand up, get a drink and walk around a while, I can't really see it being as bad as everyone's making it out to be.
I don't believe that standing that long is healthy either.
You're right, which is why many people with standing desks alternate between sitting and standing. Some use motorized standing desks and others, such as myself, use tall chairs.I've had a standing desk for the last 2 years (ikea fredrik mentioned in another comment) and find I walk away from the desk much more often than I did while sitting. Even with the increased breaks, I think I am more productive.
I wanted to get a "good" chair like a Leap but, as a cheapskate, I didn't want to spend the $400 they cost (used of course). So instead, I cut the Gordian knot and spent the money on the desk instead of the chair. I managed to score a well-used custom standing desk and barstool-height chair on Craigslist. Paired with a thin standing mat, it's been awesome and has even helped me sleep better.
The sore feet at the end of long days went away after a month, I'm always shifting position and I generally feel like I have more energy. Standing or perching on a stool both feel better than sitting and you never have that "I have to get back up? I just sat down!" feeling.
I haven't missed flopping into that desk-chair gravity well, so adjustable height isn't that exciting. If you think you want to stand, go for it.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60141484
I'm just over 6' tall and it work perfectly for me. The only detraction is that you cannot adjust the height after you build the desk (unless you take it apart again).
Edit : I mean something like this : http://www.amazon.com/Invacare-Over-Bed-Table/dp/B000QA0EHI/...
Make sure what you put on it does not slip easily, e.g. by putting an anti-slip rubber on it - when it is extended to maximum height, a small bump in the leg area could send stuff gliding otherwise.
Also, the wheel locks are far from perfect. Doesn't bother me much, but don't expect the table to be still.
What do you want from a standing desk? What would get you to buy a standing desk?
https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/treadmill-desk-part-6-...
Yes I'm still using it, about 1 year after making it. I moved it to a different part of the house so I can look out of the window though :-)
I recently joined the crew of diy stand-up deskers with this: https://plus.google.com/105852617539894761688/posts/F4sN8nUd...
By my specs you get shelves/desktop 48" wide, where you have one 28" deep desktop, one 24" deep large shelf, one 14" deep display shelf, and two 12" deep accessory shelves. It's pretty modular, so you can configure however you like. It is nowhere near as adjustable as something like the geekdesk, but for about $300 you could build two...
I forgot to mention the build supports desk heights from 30" to 52".
* Note: I didn't attach the beam connectors to the desk legs since my desk is lodged in a corner and I didn't want to mess with the legs, but I'd recommend attaching them...
My solution is simple. I slapped a desk top onto my chest of drawers, with a nonslip mat underneath to keep it from sliding. Pardon me for not running to grab the measuring tape, but it's at about my elbow height (I'm 6'2").
I stand at it most of the day, and when I get tired I just unplug everything and move to my bed for awhile. I can't take my external display to bed, but so far that's never really bothered me.
I think later on I may get crazy with some square steel tubing, and build myself a standing monstrosity.
My thoughts to those who want to try it:
+ Give it time. The first 3 days were hard. After a week, it started to feel normal.
+ Get some padding. I'm using a cheap Yoga mat. I've heard gel mats are ideal.
+ Suck in that gut. If you practice keeping your lower stomach muscles tight when you start. This will help your back muscles learn to be straight.
+ Put both feet on the ground. Leaning on one leg isn't good.
+ Move around. Sway from side to side. Pick your feet up regularly. This helps keep your body and legs healthy.
See occupational hazards of standing at work: http://www.hazards.org/standing/index.htm
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It actually fits me so well that I haven't bothered to upgrade.
Id recommend getting a monitor and keeping it at eye level.
For those of you who already have a standing chair, how often do you use it in the standing position versus sitting down? How long time does it take to get use to using a standing chair?
I think the adjustability, allowing you to move from sitting to standing at a moment's notice, is pretty important. If it weren't for that the various DIY solutions would be as much as you really need.
Occupational standing is probably the number one risk factor for varicosities, even ahead of gender
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21846281
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14531170
However, the role of prolonged sitting on varicosities (mechanistically plausible due to such factors as pelvic venous congestion and increased intraabdominal pressure) is simply unknown.
That's why I approached the half and half idea of standing/sitting for my work :)
They are no frills. Just a door, with 4 (4inx4in?) wooden legs attached. I loved the look of them when I was there this summer.
+-- ---------- <== monitor platform
| | |
--| +----+ <== keyboard platform
| | |
| +----+ <== cross-brace
--+-- | |
It consists of 2x4s for the frame and two pine boards for the platforms. The base legs are 30" long. The uprights on the sides are now 48.5" tall. The space between the uprights is 36", spanned near the bottom by a 2x4 (originally, I used an Ikea X-brace, but it's a PITA getting it set up without bonking your head without a solid cross-piece to start with).The upper monitor/laptop deck is a 48" long, 16" deep, 3/4" thick pine board. It's wide so that I can fit multiple monitors, though I'm finding that a single monitor is better for my neck (less twisting). The keyboard platform is a 36" long, 16" deep, 3/4" thick pine board. These are laminated boards, consisting of several strips glued together. They're sold shrink-wrapped at home stores and you can get them paint grade or stain grade.
The keyboard platform is about 44.5" off the ground, and they monitor platform is about 53.25". I currently have about 9" height difference between the keyboard and monitor platforms, which works well for the monitor and monitor stand I'm using (a swinging stand from Monoprice).
The keyboard and monitor platforms are supported by L-brackets made out of glued-and-screwed 2x4s. I made it a point to support the pine boards for about 3/4" of their depth, so that they don't break under stress.
Here is a crude drawing of the L-brackets which support the monitor and keyboard platforms:
+------+
| * | <== asterisks are drilled holes
|--+---+
| *| / <== 45-degree cut block for extra bracing
+--+/
Currently, the platforms have holes drilled, and put two bolts through each end to the L-brackets (the bolts screw into threaded inserts which I put into the L-brackets - Google "threaded wood insert"). Then, the L-brackets are through-bolted to the uprights.I built this particular desk so that I can disassemble it. As such, it uses a series of holes drilled 1" apart in the uprights and the L-brackets. This allows me to move the platforms up and down. Of course, it turns out that this is a bit silly, since the holes don't really line up all that well (i.e. get out the hammer and whack away to get that bolt in), and once I found the position I like, it's not moving. If I were doing this over again, I would use several QuickGrip clamps (and maybe a drilled hole + a screw for safety) to hold everything together while I figure out the geometry, then I would run just drill the necessary bolt holes at that point.
As it stands right now, the desk is a bit wobbly (the monitor sways very slightly as I'm typing this). Using the Ikea metal cross-brace will probably help with that. A simpler solution (which would be important in earthquake-prone areas, btw) would be a small L-bracket at the back of the monitor stand, screwed into the wall behind the desk.