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I'd like to meet some of those people. iOS changed, but not in a way that it hampers usability - and by this I mean basic usability. Texts, calls -> these are the important bits in a phone, not 5000 weather apps that do the same thing and flood you with ads as a bonus.

Android is a bloated mess and this bug should be a giant red flag for both Google and MS to get their shit together. Windows is currently a huge mess as well, bloated beyond repair and with "features" nobody ever asked for, but hey, who doesn't like advertising on their login screen and unrelenting telemetry?

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My SIL is one of them. She is a graphic designer and has been a 100% loyal apple user for 15 years. She had everything apple, including an iPhone. But for her last phone she decided to go for an android because she was fed up with several things on IOS.

She still uses Mac thoug.

As someone who did the same move with the release of Pixel Pro 6, I deeply regret it. Google Maps in a minimized view fared worse than my iPhone 8 plus for multitasking, that is bound to cause some traffic accidents if a driver tries multitasking while on a car mount.

Frustrating how the best software engineers can't compete with a hardware company (Apple Inc).

> Frustrating how the best software engineers can't compete with a hardware company (Apple Inc).

Allowing for a moment for a moment the premise that Google has the best software engineers, the company seems to be structured to ensure they output mediocre work. Awful performance, poor to terrible UX, poor documentation, weird or ill-advised implementations of public-facing interfaces (say, libraries), et c. There are exceptions, but "high quality software" is not something I associate with Google.

Give her a cycle or two of getting used to something, then having the rug pulled out from under you with a cancelled product or service, an inferior UI overhaul, etc. and she'll be back.

I went through that over and over again for the better part of the decade before finally jumping to an iPhone and swearing off joining any new Google services. Being a Google user is being in a perpetual state of beta testing where you pay them with your data. I'm convinced they're never gonna learn their lesson.

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