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When I see someone very devoted to a programming language, I see it as a sign that they might have problem with their perspective, not as a testament to the language's quality.

Rust might be great (I don't know) but this aspect of the community makes me less likely to try the language, not more.

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I think a lot of people don’t realize that for people at the bottom of the stack Rust is almost a revolution.

We’ve had basically no alternative other than C, with a lot of failed attempts at half supported C++. A lot of us suffered the horrible experience of working with severely lacking C++ compilers in the embedded space. Unless you were working with ARM or on top of linux, C++ was a bad idea.

C++ on bare metal microcontrollers works quite well. I've done that. You have pretty much the same restrictions as C or rust in that space, even though they look a bit different due how C++ works. But then again, you also need learn which parts of C or rust you can use in that environment.

Let me guess, you’ve done it with ARM microcontrollers.

Pretty much until ARM, support was terrible.

The codebase was originally written for V850 and quite mature by the time I joined. It was ported to ARM.

Why?

( I didn't care a bit about this aspect when I approached Rust )

Because a community with a strong devotion to a new tool is evidence of a strong reality distortion field and the reality is then decidedly less rosy than the followers of the new creed proclaim.

> is evidence of a strong reality distortion field

How so?

The reality is that programming with a language like Rust or C++ takes a higher level of expertise, those are more sophisticated tools than web technology.

You need to invest a lot more to use the tool well, but then the tool can do a lot more.

That just sounds like snobbery; why even compare them at all.

> but then the tool can do a lot more

Can it? How do you measure that Rust/C++ do more than JS/TS given that they're used to solve completely different problems?

Rust/C++ are not specific to certain types of problems, they can do anything.

That's a whole paradigm shift from using languages that are only fit for a given application domain.

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