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Well you are not wrong, but pirating is not the answer but cracking. For example i regularly backup my Audible library and remove the DRM, not to redistribute them, but in the case Amazon closes the Audible-brand, change the Apps i can access my library, delete some of them etc (we all know what can happen and did in the past).

Same with games, if possible i buy them from HumbleBundle or GOG. And i never buy something that is bound to a platform that i really care for.

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You still support this unfair business with your money. If you want to fight DRM, check out https://www.defectivebydesign.org/.

Look the audible drm is so easy to remove i am ok with it, if they change it and i cannot remove it anymore i will stop.

And yes i hate drm too, but since stallman is a extremist that supports un-free licenses (unlike the BSD and MIT) i will not listen to his wannabe rants, and i will never forgive him to change the GCC license to GPL3 only.

If i care for something i remove the drm, if i cant, i will stop buying it.

Those "unfree licenses" are the reason you're not forced to use Windows on desktops/laptops/phones/servers/toasters/supercomputers (it does none of these things well even now, imagine the world we would have if it didn't have any competition at all).

GPL puts the user's freedom first. Every developer is mostly a user anyway, unless you're writing absolutely everything from scratch like they do in SerenityOS. So I like that stance very much. If you don't, nobody is forcing you to interact with GPLed software in any way.

Exactly. Copyleft is more about "freedom for society" as a whole, ensuring all users (which includes developers) retain this version of freedom. Permissive licenses are more about "freedom" for the individual to do whatever they want, with the potential to take freedoms away from others as a result. I think the stupid anti-gpl sentiment mostly comes from American idealisms of freedom, and developer selfishness, but that's just imo. The GPL still lets you do whatever you want in the privacy of your own computer, but when you put that GPLed software into the public, you need to ensure that you give the same freedoms to everyone else to have within their own computers as well.

I think that's much more noble and kind. But as long as it's free software, I'll still use it and be happy it is, regardless of the license. And tbh it'd be nice if the small, loud minority of BSD lovers, GPL despisers would shut up. They give the BSD crowd a terrible look.

>Those "unfree licenses" are the reason you're not forced to use Windows on desktops/laptops/phones/servers/toasters/supercomputers (it does none of these things well even now, imagine the world we would have if it didn't have any competition at all).

BS, i use FreeBSD and no one ever forced me to use Windows, Linux on the Desktop does everything right?

>GPL puts the user's freedom first.

No it's free promotion for the FSF

>scratch like they do in SerenityOS

Yes and they chose a good license (BSD2)

> No it's free promotion for the FSF

They deserve the promotion, because they created useful software.

> BS, i use FreeBSD and no one ever forced me to use Windows

At some point, Windows was everywhere, you couldn't hide from it. Now, Linux provides a strong competition, forcing even Microsoft to include it into Windows. BSD, instead, served as free labor for Apple, who created a walled garden for users.

What exactly do you want to do with the code that GPL prevents you from?

This is still pirating. The fact that you don't share the cracked media doesn't change the fact that you violated the T&Cs. And I'm pretty sure they could sue you for piracy.

In the US, I don't think they could (but it may depend on the details of how you did it). They could sue you for contract violation, but would they? There's no upside for them to do so.

> And I'm pretty sure they could sue you for piracy.

Afaik, they could in Germany. One of the most BS laws.

You have a right for a private copy in Germany too, but you are not allowed to use software who can "delete security mechanisms"...that's why it is such a BS law.

In Switzerland we have a law "right for private copy" and yes you have the right to crack the drm, it's not like that german perversion.

Terms are not law, and are most terms are illegal in europe anyway.

Care to suggest a preferred method?

I too would like to know this, I've got years of Audible books and this is the first time I even thought of backing them up. This Reddit thread has several options https://www.reddit.com/r/audible/comments/nphw1w/easiest_way... including a website that will generate the ffmpeg command: https://audible-converter.ml/

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