The Yesterweb
yesterweb.org
yesterweb.org
SURELY there is something better out there, if your goal is to stop propping up proprietary monoliths?
They have to start somewhere...
Sorry, I just did a spit-take. Did you mean distributed? Discord is decidedly centralized.
Who hurt you?
Discourse is of course a good option.
I do think the idea has merit though. I have some thoughts on a way to do this that is resistant to both spam and censorship.
This page reacts poorly to changes in the user-agent’s default font sizes, because it defines the size of blocks like “The Yesterweb” in pixels, but fills it with contents in an unknown font family and size so that its contents are liable to overflow messily (that is, in the “CSS is awesome” meme way). Things are made more complex by the use of the magic monospace, so that the font size inside the body element is not scaled according to the number that’s almost certainly 16px (1.2 [for html] × 1.2 [for body] × 16px = 23.04px), but rather according to the number that’s probably 13px (1.2 × 1.2 × 13px = 18.72px). I long ago changed my monospace font size to 16px, so I get overflow.
I wonder whether browser makers would be open to the idea of removing the monospace font size thing. Shrinking the font-size to 81.25% is just a bad idea in general in almost all monospace fonts used now (… and it was never a particularly good idea in the first place). These days, almost no one hits it because it’s rare to use just `font-family: monospace` (instead it’ll normally be a foolishly complex list of options that mostly just makes things worse these days, except in Firefox on Windows pending https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713680), and when people do hit it they normally get confused if they’re not familiar with it and almost always want to work around it.
But bringing it back to a more useful discussion point: this is a good demonstration of a problem that used to occur regularly, but is now exceedingly rare. The concept of responsive design and especially mobile devices helped make this happen.
Similarly, we might look back fondly at marquee tags, but my god early websites were an ugly affront to readability. I hated the spastic myspace pages. I really disliked Verdana and Times New Roman. We've got better fonts now, sharper, more colour-accurate displays. Fuck the early 90s. Make something cool that's modern! Technology allows us to create nice things. We can make something small, minimalistic, creative and self hosted, without such cheap attempts at nostalgia.
The core matter is, one dreams that putting - on the contrary - security holes in cars for extremely petty reasons, just like making them overly complex systems difficult to repair (as opposed to the explicit paradigm of, say, Dante Giacosa "You will have to be able to repair them with plain small drugstore equipment"), would have been considered unthinkable and unacceptable by non-ancient fathers "untainted by perversion".
> make something cool that's modern
Make something well done, polished following sensible considerations, "untainted by perversion".
> Things in the 70s weren't great
For lack of technology. "Things" today are plainly dystopic - for excess of technology and lack of senses.
Interesting take
(With its companion side: transmitted page size, 12.4Kb .)
As opposed to the typical severely bloated and unpolished pages that are served nowadays (text color defined and overridden a dozen times in the CSS etc).
These financial markets support decentralization in that it serves to create new markets of opportunity not subservient to current market leaders, but at the same time reject decentralization in ways that would limit the ability for those new networks to monetize in the ways that would provide incentives for the investors and founders. Since decentralization favors the individual over an authority of any type, it's very difficult to gain support for decentralization from within current markets.
I really hope that we rethink the VC and public market-based underpinnings of our current tech echosystem. Many of the problems of what we're experiencing today with the steady decay of open and good quality Internet systems as well as the erosion of distrust in authority can really be traced to the way that money (and fortunes) are generated today. Walled gardens. Captive audiences. Standards balkanization. A shift from pay-to-own to rental subscription models. Locking down the ability for individuals to service their own systems in order to coerce continued vendor purchasing. All of these trends favor centralization, single-vendor ownership, and the behavior of market leaders to acquire and entrench their competition and thereby restrict choice.
I don't want to get too macro, but it's possible even many of the ills of modern day capitalism can be traced to financial markets that motivate bad behavior. But I'll keep it on subject and say that the Internet of the past was the Internet of the past not only because of decentralized technology but because of personal, non-financial interest motivations and technophile centric development that pursued the "what if" instead of the "what's in it for me".
I agree these are rose-tinted glasses, but it can be argued that the Internet would not have developed as it has today if it wasn't for the tech-centric naivete of the early Web innovators.