At least where I am, when a car is registered the owner gets an "ownership" document, which is also registered with the government. Lists the vehicle, VIN, owner, etc.
Would this not stop whatever disputes over ownership you're referring to?
I'm almost certain a car dealership would accept a death certificate if she needed another key made, but my point is - yes, even with an official document stating who is the owner, you can still end up in some weird edge case scenario.
What if your dad willed the car to someone else? I suppose a death certificate isn't evidence of being the successor.
Then they will need to deal with stuff like "Toyota unlocked the car of a Putin critic", "Audi refused to unlock the car of a pregnant woman who lost her keys during the emergency, the baby died. They previously unlocked the car of Joe Rogan's girlfriend".
You also will have issues where the legal owner and the regular user are different people(i.e. father and son, romantic partners etc). Someone passes or the relationship sours and now you have people begging the car company let them use the car they have been using for years.
You will also have governments demanding you disable the cars of people who have problems with the regime. In Philippines the government might demand lock down the cars of LGBT people, in USA they might lock down the cars of people with debt.
Who knows? It makes the manufacturer part of the running the car just the way Apple and Google are part of running your phone.
I own X car, and key is lost/broken/whatever. I go to my dealership, show my ownership. They validate it with the systems they already have (again, at least in my country) that communicate with the ministry, and check my ID. Done. All handled at the local dealership level (where they are already familiar with local laws, so it's not onerous to follow local regulation).
>Audi refused to unlock the car of a pregnant woman who lost her keys during the emergency, the baby died.
Starting to get a bit out of hand with speculation, I think. I don't follow the logic with this one. If there is an emergency, emergency services would be called rather than Audi.
>Someone passes or the relationship sours and now you have people begging the car company let them use the car they have been using for years.
Dealership says "Please provide ownership documents". It's not a complicated thing or a novel concept.
Anyway, the idea is that you will have circumstances where unlocking the car would save somebodies lives but due to procedures not covering situations like this bad things will happen and people will blame the manufacturer. The way system works will be a constant debate.
I can make up millions of wild scenarios, as well. I'm sure a few will be true here and there.
However, I don't think speculating about a hypothetical person with a hypothetical abusive partner who is the sole emergency responder in a hypothetical world where corporate Audi is the only other solution (what about taxi, uber, neighbor, cop, etc.?) to a hypothetical medical emergency is worth discussing.
Car theft? Big deal, insurance covers it. You can put the car into a garage, you can install your own tracker, the police can find it and there are many other ways to to steal the car and even if the car is not unlockable the "selling the parts" business model can still make it a target for the thief.
What's the argument for leaving it to the manufacturer?
I'm not sure what you're arguing about anymore.
What does that have to do with centralized vehicle locking systems?
>simply be using the car formally or informally but it belongs to someone else
And why in these cases should someone be able to claim ownership of the car, when they are not the owner?
I'm wondering if I mistyped something, or miscommunicated something. My whole point, originally, was that it is not some incredibly difficult thing to prove that you own the car.
The comment that I originally replied to said:
>all kind of disputes people have over the ownership
And all I said was
>At least where I am, when a car is registered the owner gets an "ownership" document, which is also registered with the government. Lists the vehicle, VIN, owner, etc.Would this not stop whatever disputes over ownership you're referring to?
Where that got lost in translation, I don't know.
However, I've never needed a title for any other purpose and I think the last car I traded in I actually had to get a new title because it wasn't in my file cabinet where it should have been.I certainly wouldn't expect to need one to get spare keys issued, the car inspected (though they need an insurance-stamped registration for that in my state), or anything else.
*Easily, but not necessarily quickly in the case where you need the document reissued or whatever.