Diacritical Marks in Unicode
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Chloë loves Pokémon. Zoë's favorite constellation is Boötes.
Speaking of Zoë and normalizing Unicode strings, here's an excellent resource I use every few months when I forget how it works:
https://withblue.ink/2019/03/11/why-you-need-to-normalize-un...
While I've adored the word 'coördinate' ever since I saw it used in an English translation of Verne's "80,000 Leagues Under the Sea" (I even spelled it that way on a spelling test, with no points removed), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)#Modern_u... correctly refers to it as "largely archaic", limited mostly to the house styles of a few publications.
I specifically ignored loan words as I wanted to highlight "English" examples. As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_terms_with_diacritical... comments, "In many cases, imported words can be found in print in both their accented and unaccented versions", so using the foreign orthography may be seen as an affection that a native English speaker could ignore.
See for example the Wikipedia entry for "facade"/"façade", which mostly uses façade, but sometimes facade, and where there's years of history questioning which orthography to use (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fa%C3%A7ade ) , and where other Wikipedia pages use 'facade', like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-skin_facade and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high-rise_facade_fires .
Other relevant English proper names include Brontë and Ketèlbey.
I've known Elementary School teachers make very strong cases that it is time we bring back the common usage of the diareses in English to denote dipthongs versus syllable breaks. We finally have the technology to do it, it isn't an expensive overhead, and most soft keyboards on the average phone make it really easy to do it. It's still a bit harder on other computers, but even there emoji soft-keyboards and IMEs are catching up in modern OSes for Modern English users (thanks emoji). For instance in Windows today the diaresis versions of most vowels is relatively easily inputted from the emoji soft-keyboard/IME in Windows 10+ (Win+. or Win+; your choice, to open) under the Math/Symbols tab (denoted by an Omega Ω) and the "Accents" sub-tab denoted by a cedilla ç (our friend from façade).
The ship of regular relations between orthography and pronunciation in English has not merely sailed, but also been torpedoed, sunk, buried in the muck at the bottom, and fossilized.
Diareses won't bring it back, or even measurably move the needle.
> For instance in Windows today the diaresis versions of most vowels is relatively easily inputted from the emoji soft-keyboard/IME in Windows 10+ (Win+. or Win+; your choice, to open) under the Math/Symbols tab (denoted by an Omega Ω) and the "Accents" sub-tab denoted by a cedilla ç (our friend from façade).
Navigating through three submenus from a pop-up menu is not a “relatively easy” way to input a character.
Even if you prefer the English (US) keyboard layout generally, it's easier to enable the English (International) layout, Ctrl-Shift to switch to it, type " followed by a character for which the diaresis is supported to get the accented character and Ctrl-Shift to return to the US English keyboard than to use the Emoji tool.
My keyboard layout of choice has an AltGr international key and some useful dead key typography shortcuts and I use that most of the time myself. I do appreciate the efficiency bonus of a keyboard layout that includes a bit more International keys.
Still though, the emoji keyboard remains a far easier way to *teach* someone to type a character than to teach them to switch keyboard layouts, particularly because installing keyboard layouts requires Admin rights in Windows, and is dozens of steps in Settings pages that most regular users don't ever usually see/know/understand. (It's really not at all easier to enable the English International layout if you don't have admin rights to install alternate keyboards at all beyond your system installer's defaults. The emoji keyboard is always available in Windows 10 once you cross its release version.)
Push a key to get a popup no matter what keyboards you have installed is easy to describe. Yes, the navigation could be improved and isn't "efficient" at all, but that's entirely orthogonal to "relatively easy". Bad inefficient navigation is still easy to teach/easy to learn/easy to use. Case in point, the emoji keyboard looks like equivalent soft keyboards on phone devices so it should be familiar with is more corelated to "relatively easy" than "efficient" in most people's eyes. Even if I didn't break down the specific tab/sub-tab in my description it should be relatively discoverable if you have a basic idea how an emoji keyboard should work, and discoverable is also more corelated to "easy" than "efficient". (Alternate keyboard layouts aren't very discoverable.)
Personally, I love that you can type names of emoji/search keywords and wish they would extend that support to the Symbols section as well. Maybe even some dead-key inspired short codes like "o as a replacement for o with diaresis. (:o turns up the shocked emoji at least/in contrast).
Adding a new keyboard from a language pack that is installed does not require Admin rights. I just tested it on a machine to which I do not have Admin rights.
But my point is not so much that contextual swapping of keyboard layouts is a great workflow, but that the emoji keyboard for anything that is a regular part of typing text is an intolerably bad workflow.
> The emoji keyboard is always available in Windows 10 once you cross its release version.
No, it can be disabled by an admin, so if you have a computer someone else administers (the problem you raise with alternative keyboard layouts) it might not be there. (There's no convenient dedicated UI, but it can be done, and enough people want to do it that you can easily find the how-to's in response to questions online.)
Is to use diaeresis to help teach a short list of words, like "coop", in order to distinguish between two pronunciation forms ("We bought the chicken coop at the farm coöp.")?
If so, that specific form can be fixed by writing it "co-op". How many other words are in that category at the elementary school level, and how many can be addressed by using a '-' instead of a diaeresis?
As it is, elementary school teachers already need to teach that 'lead glass' and 'lead the way' are different; and how some words like 'read' change pronunciation in the present and past tense but are spelled the same. So it's not like there's much of a fix to have a handful of words with a diaeresis.
If we change to use diaeresis, what other words will need to be changed in to fit the rule?
Don't jeer at the seër. (Most "ee" words have a long e ("seed", "seem", "seen").)
I'm a top tier square knot tiër.
I am so good at peeing I am a peër without peer.
Just like cooperative might be shortened to co-op or coop, coaxial cable might be shorted to co-ax or to coax. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable uses all three! But if we teach diaeresis, then we'll have a third spelling -- coäx.
I could go on. My point is, the diaeresis rule isn't that easy to explain to elementary school students.
By comparison, teachers already use syllabification (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllabification ), which naturally extends to these cases where diaeresis might help!. Quoting that Wikipedia entry:
> The written separation into syllables is usually marked by a hyphen when using English orthography (e.g., syl-la-ble) and with a period when transcribing the actually spoken syllables in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) (e.g., [ˈsɪl.ə.bᵊɫ]). For presentation purposes, typographers may use an interpunct (Unicode character U+00B7, e.g., syl·la·ble), a special-purpose "hyphenation point" (U+2027, e.g., syl‧la‧ble), or a space (e.g., syl la ble).
So, when teaching, write "co‧op" and "pe‧er" and "se‧er" and "co‧ax". I think that's what my primary school used.
This doesn't even require fancy Unicode interpuncts - hyphens also work. That's the "co-op" solution I mentioned earlier. Only, it can be applied to every multi-syllabic word.
You can see examples (if you have an archive.org account) of hyphens used in teaching syllables at https://archive.org/details/teachingphonicsf02edstar/page/90... .
FWIW, here's a 1852 book using acute accents to indicate stress, which teaching elementary English grammar - https://archive.org/details/anelementaryeng00lathgoog/page/n... .
> makes the language better
Do you plan to resume using the word "hôtel"? ("The French spelling, with the circumflex, was also used in English, but is now rare" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel .)
> in the age of printing presses and lead type
Here's an image for a Linotype machine. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Linotype... .
It has keys for the ligatures fl, ff, ffi, and ℔ (!). [1]
It also has the ligatures œ (handy when spelling œvre or diarrhœa), and æ (for ægis, dæmon, æther, and mediæval).
To double-check, I pulled up a British book from 1846, "Printing apparatus for the use of amateurs : containing full and practical instructions for the use of Cowper's parlour printing press" from archive.org. Page 19 shows a type case layout (see https://archive.org/details/printingapparatu00holtrich/page/... ), again with æ, œ, fl, ff, and ffi, as well as fi and ffl.
So the idea that printing presses and lead type caused the orthography "coördinate" to disappear seems ... in need of further supporting evidence. At the very least, it seems "ö" was less common than "æ" or "œ", and the latter two were commonly available in type cases, yet certainly died out in normal use.
FWIW, Google n-grams suggests that the use of "coördinate" seems to have peaked in the 1920s, well after the rise of Linotype. And that there was never a time was it was more frequent than "coordinate". https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=co%C3%B6rdinat...
Google Books finds about 300 books in the 19th century with "coördinate" and also about 300 with "coordinate".
[1] I verified ℔ by looking at a Linotype book, at https://archive.org/details/LinotypeKeyboardPractice/page/n9... .
> Do you plan to resume using the word "hôtel"? ("The French spelling, with the circumflex, was also used in English, but is now rare" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel .)
How does that actually archaic spelling of "hotel" help make the language better? The diaresis helps disambiguate the words coop (housing for chickens) and coöp (a business built as a coöperative). That's just one example.
The rest of your post has some interesting points, though it's most interesting to me here because it seems to directly conflict with the "old" sense of the word "archaic" from the above discussion if it's a 19th/20th Century invention. It would imply to me the use of the word "archaic" is a bad editorial choice in the Wikipedia article and its primary sources on that word choice maybe not be the most reliable. (Of two citations, the one that actually uses the word "archaic" is a personal blog post, versus the Fowler's Modern English citation simply says "often dropped" and doesn't editorialize but does "blame" "often not on modern keyboards".)
When was it in common usage? You can't "go back" to something that never existed. And I showed it doesn't appear to be common in the 1800s.
I can totally blame printing for contributing to the loss of Þ, but by the 1400s it was growing less common. It in turn had replaced ð in Old English, showing the printing press isn't the only thing which can change orthography. But I don't see how the printing press a contributing factor to the change in popularity of ö, which you asserted was the case.
> The diaresis helps disambiguate
FWIW, I use "co-op" when I want to disambiguate that case.
There are two issues here. One is "use the diareses in teaching", and the other is "bring back the common usage." Your example only justifies the first.
Consider Hebrew orthography. It does not indicate vowels. However, niqqud "is a system of diacritical signs used to represent vowels or distinguish between alternative pronunciations of letters of the Hebrew alphabet. ... In modern Israeli orthography niqqud is seldom used, except in specialised texts such as dictionaries, poetry, or texts for children or for new immigrants to Israel ... [although] it no longer reflects the current pronunciation.." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niqqud
Arabic orthography is similar. "Tashkīl is optional to represent missing vowels and consonant length. Modern Arabic is always written with the i‘jām—consonant pointing, but only religious texts, children's books and works for learners are written with the full tashkīl—vowel guides and consonant length." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_diacritics#harakat
Clearly pedagogy can use a variant orthography that is not in common use!
But if you go that route, why limit yourself to diaresis?
English can use a grave accent to indicate if a vowel is to be pronounced ("learned" vs. "learnèd"). This is mostly in poetry and lyrics. A unified pedagogy might use "coôp" instead of "coöp".
English can use an acute accent to indicate when an vowel is not silent. (The drink "maté", when the original Spanish is "mate").
For teaching, the acute can be used to disambiguate between words with the same spelling but different stress ("cónvert" vs. "convért" or "désert" vs. "desért").
And if we're talking about teaching ambiguous words, what about words like "bow" ("ribbon and bow" vs. "the ship's bow") and "close" ("close the door" vs "it was a close games")? I don't even have a notation, outside of IPA, to represent those.
This means diaresis addresses only a small fraction of the ambiguity in English orthography. Is it really worthwhile to give extra attention on this one facet, and reduce time spent on other facets?
No I wrote "make cases that think it is time". I'm much more ambivalent about it than the arguments I had heard from others. I agreed in the post you are responding too that I hadn't realized it was much closer to a modern reform movement than a "bring back". That's my uncritical understanding that I'll admit I was wrong about.
Is it the right orthography reform movement to fight for expanding into common use? I don't know and I don't really have anywhere near as strong as opinion on this as you seem to have, but I do know people that think it is a useful reform movement to fight for with existing publication style guides to point to on how/when to use (the New Yorker's) and presumably an "easy win" with good precedence that would do some good, and that is all I was ever pointing out. I'm just pointing out the opinions of other people I've known, whether or not you agree with them is fine. These aren't my own opinions so while I've heard good arguments for them over the years, I certainly never internalized them and can't do justice in defending them. But I appreciate that you seem to be looking for much more of an argument here than I can muster.
I don't see how you think there's a strong case.
I don't see why you think ö fell out of favor because of cost.
I didn't get from your earlier comment that these weren't personal beliefs at all but were forwarded from others.
> existing publication style guides to point to
That's not the basis for good pedagogy at the elementary school level. Publication style guides are for people with years of experience.
In elementary school you learn how to alphabetize names. In 6th grade I learned a new rule - the library collated Mac and Mc together card catalog. (This was in 1981, before computers.) Turns out this was A.L.A. Rules for Filing Catalog Cards, rule 13) b), see https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.15145/page/n19/mode... . That link goes into far more detail than anything an elementary student should have to know about sorting names.
For similar reasons, elementary students aren't expected to format their book reports in MLA style.
The first half of that sentence you keep fragmenting was the more important part of my comment. That's pretty obvious why you keep misunderstanding my intent. I don't really have anything to add about pedagogy or style guides, that's out of my wheelhouse and interest level, sorry. I'm sorry I can't be a more interesting interlocutor for this debate that you want to have.
The part you quoted just now is from the second paragraph.
I misinterpreted the first paragraph as being your opinion, and the second as being support for your opinion in the narrower topic of pedagogy.
I'm not a unicode expert, but normalization is more about what characters are available in unicode, not the specific language, especially characters which are used in multiple languages (which i assume includes ô).
> There are known gaps, which is why Unicode is up to four different normalization algorithms today.
Like what? The four normalization algorithms serve different purposes, its not like the first one was broken so they made a second one.