One of the most salient thing about rights is that the majority isn't permitted take them away whenever it suits them.
They're mandating vaccines so that they can continue to provide all their citizens with this human right.
Sometimes rights clash, which is why you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater despite having the right to freedom of speech.
An individual's right to do X on principle can absolutely be overruled by the right for a larger group of people to continue living on this earth.
The decision about yelling fire in a crowded theater originates from Schenck v. United States, in which the Supreme Court decided it's OK for the US Government to suppress anti-draft protests; consider if you wish to build arguments on this foundation.
> They're mandating vaccines so that they can continue to provide all their citizens with this human right.
This is exactly why those people are wrong. True rights never clash.
Including the vaccinated, who can still spread it, so I guess we must lock them up since they are already vaccinated, and we can't stop them from spreading the virus otherwise.
Saying that people don't have a right to spread the virus is disingenuous. The reality is that people don't have a right to be free from sickness or death. You can only make personal decisions about risk you are willing to take. To force other people to do things to make you safe is not a right.
True, but when vaxxeds spread to other people who are vaccinated, nobody dies. It’s the unvaccinated who endanger themselves (their problem) and others (society’s problem) with their unwillingness to help. We should isolate the unvaccinated for their own protection.
> Saying that people don't have a right to spread the virus is disingenuous.
Try to deliberately infect someone with a disease such as AIDS, HPV, or smallpox and let me know what the law says about that.
> You can only make personal decisions about risk you are willing to take.
You can’t, for instance, drink and drive. It’s not your personal decision the moment your decision endangers others.
> To force other people to do things to make you safe is not a right.
Someone who insists in DUI and kills people regularly will end up being forced to live in a prison.
Are they going to advocate that we capture and vaccinate all the animals that humans can or could come in contact with?
It's utterly preposterous - but anyone that doesn't agree with them are the irrational ones. Propaganda and emotions running amok.
So, I strongly suggest people get vaccinated so, at least, they don’t infect the bear that eats them.
May I recommend you read article 2(2) of the German constitution at your convenience.
https://openjur.de/u/2347742.html
Wikipedia says there are cases pending in German supreme court regarding a recent measles vaccination mandate; the court has so far refused to issue a preliminary injunction against the mandate and left the question open for decision in the main trial (see paragraph 18).
At this point you're borderline rage-baiting / trolling, which isn't super welcome here.
Germany could theoretically disallow unvaccinated people access to their ICUs without trampling any rights. It would get messy.
Germans aren't fond of messy solutions. They are a very practical people, and they've decided to take a more practical approach (vaccine mandates) that might respect individual rights less, but also results in much less death for those very individuals and the rest of society.
Throughout history, making people second-class citizens has never resulted in anything good. If you can name one instance in history where making people second-class citizens was a net benefit, I will eat my words.
* My right to speak freely and say cruel things vs the right of someone else to live a peaceful life free of terror.
* The right of a privacy for a politician vs the right of the pubic to know about their character & personal life.
* The right of a capitalist to buy out all the competition vs the right of the consumer to have choice.