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There is a huge spike in active cases right before and after Dec 11th. More cases = more deaths.

That's true, but what you can't tell from this graph was that in this period we went from 10.000 tests per day to almost 200.000, so I think that might account for must of the uptick in active cases in this period. During some of our biggest spikes the infection% has hovered around 2 - 3%.

Present day we have about 430k active cases, which is almost 10% of the population, but the % is still 2.3%.

Testing more will uncover more benign cases, that's true, but it is also possible that people are testing more due to having more symptoms.

Vaccination has continued in Denmark so if vaccines were killing people we'd expect to see that rocketing as Denmark has one of the highest vaccination rates.

I think the causality is:

More illness -> More people get tested

More illness -> More people get vaccinated

More illness -> More people die

I agree that if the vaccine was killing people, we'd be seeing mass death. Currently we are experiencing +15% all-cause mortality, where 2020 was around 0%.

The reason we are testing 200k/day is because you don't have many options for moving around without a valid test or vaccine. Ie. school, shopping, work etc requires it.

Don't you think the +15% all-cause mortality is the "mass death" you would expect to see? Isn't it interesting that Pfizer originally publically under-reported all-cause-mortality numbers in March in the vaccinated group and then went ahead and provided the correct # of deaths in the vaccinated 4 months later? It looked like by their trials all-cause-mortality was identical in vax vs unvax'ed groups, but turns out 'statistically significant' higher number of deaths in the vaccinated group. Hmmmm.

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