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Heh, I was contemplating this HN post and thinking how would I explain visual fantasy to an aphantasic person when a tought came to my mind: What about dreams?!

I had to quickly open the post and search for a word 'dream' and found your comment.

Btw. for me visual imagination during pre-sleep even when very sleep deprived is same as when being wide awake. Dreams themselfs are a little more vivid perhaps, I'm not completely sure. Which reminds me a phrase 'lucid dreaming'.. a supposed state where can you volountarily control your dream to utilize it as some kind of matrix/construct.

I don't have any dream recall whatsoever. I'm not sure if I ever did. I do believe that I dream but that belief is based on anecdotes from friends and family who have observed me while I am sleeping.

That's my experience. Dreams can be vivid, or close enough to real life including color. Occasionally I'll see hypnagogic imagery, but more likely I'll hear music when I'm really tired.

I see dreams but have no visualization in any state of wakefulness