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Endless variants, endless boosters, endless profits.

No wonder natural immunity is being suppressed. Having broad and long-lasting antibody and T-cell immunity is bad for profits and continuing this state of affairs.

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Suppressed by whom?

You think eg. my local belgian government has a vested interest in butchering its own economy so some american drug company can make profits?

Or is it more likely that they're pushing vaccines over natural immunity because the former doesn't involve furthering spread and risk of hospitalization as a prerequisite for getting it?

Please think before going full tinfoil.

It's being suppressed by information outlets of all kinds. Authorities in the U.S. have admitted they need to "look into it", even though we're already in this about two years now.

> You think eg. my local belgian government has a vested interest in butchering its own economy so some american drug company can make profits?

Yes. Politicians are corrupt, welcome to the shitty nature of human beings. They will misbehave and commit atrocities over and over again, as proven by history. I don't think we've entered a special time in history where people in power are somehow immune to corruption now. This has already happened in Australia, with that one politician stepping down because she had received money from the pharma companies. Why wouldn't more of them be in that situation?

> Or is it more likely that they're pushing vaccines over natural immunity because the former doesn't involve furthering spread and risk of hospitalization as a prerequisite for getting it?

Vaccines use one's natural immunity. Furthermore, why isn't it a solution to expand hospital care, and/or take that care to people's homes? After all, we can clearly see the vax does not eliminate the chance of landing in the hospital, and places with 90%+ vax are still seeing spikes. There is clearly a focus of pushing the vax at all costs.

> This has already happened in Australia, with that one politician stepping down because she had received money from the pharma companies.

As an Australian, I'd like to know more about this? If your referring to Gladys Berejiklian (Ex-Premier of NSW) stepping down, that had nothing to do with Big Pharma [1][2].

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-gladysberejiklian-...

[2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/nsw-premier-gladys-be...

Ok, I didn't know the details. Seems like a strange timing since she was doing all the pandemic press conferences. Anyway, they're still corrupt.

> Politicians are corrupt

Politicians maybe corrupt, but our NHS (here in Blighty) most certainly is not.

Here, the NHS doctors keep asking the politicians for more money to combat Covid, and the current government whistles. (Something you will acknowledge regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum.)

Natural immunity has become a party line issues, sadly. The CDC also has done its part in shunning studies that confirm that it is at least as effective (when not more) than vaccine induced immunity, and boasting only those specific that confirm their narrative, be it nonseroconversion cases among PCR positive to controversial study with cherry picked cohorts.

Public health policy is hard, I gather, but disingenuous information (disinformation?) is a red line that public authorities should never pass (eg Iraqi WMD)

If someone could make a vaccine that worked forever they would.

> No wonder natural immunity is being suppressed. Having broad and long-lasting antibody and T-cell immunity is bad for profits and continuing this state of affairs.

What's this based on ? Is there some R-value or Mortality ratio at which natural immunity is better ? Besides vaccines are cheap, nowehere expensive enough to put a dent in people's pockets.

Natural immunity isn't being suppressed. We learned from prior viruses that it is generally not a good idea to seek out infection.

You're hearing a lot about covid because it has a massive impact on society. I really don't think you'd say other preventative treatments are a bad thing because people profit from making them?

> No wonder natural immunity is being suppressed.

What does this mean? Who or what is suppressing natural immunity? SARS-CoV-2? Some country's government? Some company?

The US government continues to refuse to recognize naturally acquired immunity as valid. You can lose your job if you've recovered from COVID19 but do not get the vaccine. There's no reasonable excuse for doing this.

BECUASE IT ISN'T VALID More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-i...

There are plenty of governments who are not great friends of the US. Why do they also suppress this information?

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