Reality shifting: an emergent online daydreaming culture
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> Before I plan on shifting, I write myself a script in the notes app on my phone, in which I plan exactly what happens in the desired reality. This makes it easier to visualize exactly what I want to happen
I suppose one difference is that in reading, you (or I, at least) tend to also dissociate the self somewhat in favour of the main character in the novel, whereas RS users seem to retain their sense of self.
Following this train of thought, I wonder if reading could itself be considered a kind of meditation?
This sort of thing is so interesting from a psychological perspective, is a shame it has to come laden with bogus rationalisations via the occult or pop-quantum physics, which just provides an avenue for easy dismissal of the effect.
I'm guessing those help them though. The more you believe in it the better it works so having plausible (to laymen) explanations and talking as if the characters are real people improves the experience.
Unfortunately it is a similar mechanism that underlies various pathological delusions like paranoia, so I'm not sure how healthy of an activity it would be. I suppose like anything else it comes down to a matter of degrees?
Just after I read the abstract, it reminded me of reading a long, engrossing novel (like War and Peace, LOTR, etc.), or watching a similar TV/Web series (like The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc.)
To a large extent I read long novels for this effect.
It gives you momentary escape from your reality, and when you "come back", you come back better.
I also want to point out that novels can be addictive in a bad way.
Long art forms suspends reality for a time period.
[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Walter_Mi...
I'm not super well versed on quantum physics, but I'm not sure that a system that includes travel between universes should be described as 'rooted in extrapolations of modern cosmology, quantum theory,[...,],' so much based on fictional systems lightly inspired by quantum physics.
Anyway, given the state of the world it isn't that surprising that people would like to indulge in a bit more daydreaming nowadays. Especially young adults missing formative early events (a happy and relatively free first couple years of independence in college, for example). Perhaps there's an 'alternate universe' in which we really isolated college campuses and the students there could have had their Hogwarts. We failed them miserably.
Using this model, it is easy to imagine "parallel realities" which are very close to ours and thus amenable to fantasizing, but different enough to contain whatever makes the fantasies attractive.
The bit I get fuzzy at: something I believe, but without proof, is that any scheme that involved any communication between universes would fundamentally violate a ton of basic physics principles. I mean, it would seem to violate the definition of universe as the totality of existence, but that's just a definition. But I'm sure (again, without actually doing any math or physics) that it must violate some conservation of energy rules as well.
Edit: I bet there's a really slick line of argument like: if you want to duplicate a universe, there's all that matter in the second copy to make, which you've got to pay E=mc^2 for. This is OK in the many worlds interpretation because <reasons relating to the universes being totally disconnected from each other, or something like that>. But if they were connected to each other <the previous reasons would somehow be invalid>.
But filling in those two blanks -- that sort of stuff is why I retreated to thermodynamics, with the rest of the engineers.
If quantum mechanics had a non-linearity and... some other conditions, then you could use it to send, uh, some information between two sides of a branch point, uh, once, I think.
At least, you could send a single bit from one side of the branch to the other.
I think the idea is, if there are non-linearities in time evolution, then either [the thing described above] is possible, or sending messages back in time is possible?
So, that's, I suppose, a reason one might expect time evolution to be completely linear? (beyond just, it being not completely linear being like, super ugly.)
But, also, I don't think the "duplicating the universe requires duplicating all the matter" really follows from QM stuff.
These "splittings", they aren't... It is all just linear combinations of things.
Ok, so, idk how to handle this in like, a relativistic context, but in a non-relativistic context, if you are just talking about unitary time evolution, with no born rule discrete jump stuff imposed on top (which, if you are using MWI , which I assume is what you mean because you are talking about the splittings, is the thing), then it's not like you have some single time at which you go from one universe to two universes? It's all just continuous time evolution of the wavefunction. The worlds are just projections of this wavefunction into parts that can be considered independently because of like, decoherence and such? Something like that.
Maybe you could think of it as less "the world if the measurement outcome is x" and more "the world insofar as the measurement outcome is x" ?
This bothers me also, it's like every tiny quantum event creates a Big Bang in a new dimension. There is information duplication as well. Without a way to communicate between dimensions there would seem to be absolutely no way to test this theory. Maybe every quantum event is a communication? And why a new universe for every event? Why not just two universes? And how does time fit in? Maybe the second universe would be the first universe running backwards in time? The energy and information duplication seems too extreme. Could new dimensions eventually fill all possible dimensions and start to collide or overlap? Maybe our universe is a superposition of all dimensions?
Anyone? Smells like a bad test suite that's been patched by hiding the failing tests through a layer of indirection.
I've not managed LD awake/meditating yet , but I can fall asleep awake if my body is tired enough but I'm mentally awake, though it requires a lot of concentration. And doing it does not feel nice (you can feel your body paralyzing, feels like you can't breathe and you have to avoid reacting).
Also from what I understand the feeling of suffocation is quite common for people who experience sleep paralysis. You're not actually suffocating. Given I induced it, that's probably what that was. The first time it woke me up, the second time I ignored it and a few seconds passed and then the sensations stopped and I was lucid dreaming. At least that's what it felt. I slept for slightly more than an hour most times (I've only managed it during naps) and lost lucidity at times. It felt like the dream started immediately but it might not have. Also at other times I could feel my body in the bed again but wasn't dreaming just asleep.
Every time I have thoughts like this about <insert whatever> anymore, I find myself coming back to “well, there are actual Nazi wannabes still, so I guess <insert whatever> isn’t too bad” - let them live their life.
Once Nazis are out of the picture… then maybe we can justify cracking down on others things we don’t like :P
I tried imagining a cube, rotated it and then morphed it into a tetrahedron, which wasn't too difficult, but perhaps it was more complicated than that?
of course this is just a hunch and other people's anecdata might say otherwise, but i tend to think it could be a swing of the pendulum or "backlash" from New Atheist influence in the discourse in the 2000s and early 2010s.
As for the traditional religion, my guess is it's traditionalism in response to the increase in cultural warfare we've seen recently.
Of course, interpreting these things in just one way is a category mistake.
The same sort of shaky quantum physics justification is used for it.
It might be reaching but I'd say the Russians that grew up 90's were captivated by this idea perhaps because of the similar desire to escape a bad reality. That time was awful for a lot of them and covid restrictions have a similar sort of hopelessness and helplessness. When you do not feel you can have an affect on the world, it's best to focus on changing your perception of it.
The reality creation in Russia's version notably lacked the application of simply going to some commercialized fictional world. Instead it simply focused on creating your reality - whatever that may be.
I actually know an exorcist from a mainline church; I should ask him what he makes of it.
It's like how you'll sometimes hear/read people say that tantra/mediation stuff like Kundalini can be dangerous because it results in an energy imbalance that could potentially be irreparable and/or lead to lasting damage.
Accessing these voices is invaluable for writing fiction, perhaps the difference with a tulpa is the level of reality and influence ascribed to a single 'not-me' voice?
I also see the ability to have an internal Socratic dialogue as requiring a kind of ego-splitting, in a way that could be conceptualized as a tulpa asking (often surprising) questions.
Very abstract and hard to talk about stuff, I hope that makes sense.
We might have been on track anyway, but shit got crazy when 2020 took us down a sharp turn and dark alley towards a mashup of all of the dystopian fiction ever written.
Kids thinking they're astral projecting to Hogwarts is downright rational. That world had only a vague internal consistency and it still makes more sense than actual reality right now.
It's the equivalent of meteorologists finding themselves in the middle of a Sharknado and deciding that, hey, maybe getting weather from a groundhog wasn't so crazy because a few more/less weeks of winter was an understandable possibility, and Punxsutawney Phil never predicted weather of biblical proportions.
It's not parody, it's a coping mechanism because reality right now looks itself like a bad parody written by an SF hack in 2017.
And they weren't even goosing fake market cap bits at the time.
> A hint of bad news will empty store shelves of toilet paper. A chip shortage is in some loose way related to a turkey shortage.
Ever hear of actual breadlines?
This guy thought he was a chicken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtLL3LOi87I
I think you might as well daydream yourself into a reality where the sky isn't falling. ;)
Note that I'm also note saying things are worse right now than other times.
I'm saying things are stranger, weirder than other times, less predictable from 3 years earlier, as a civilization, than at other times of high chaos.
Things are not stranger now, you just hear more about the strange people and unusual things.
That isn't the strangeness I'm talking about. Or rather, it's only a part of it: Awareness of it by rank and file average young people is new and has an impact on their worldview and whether or not the world around them makes any sense. But you're cherry picking things like that which are not part of the strangeness that I mean:
I'm not sure you can look at lockdowns, quarantines, fundamental shifts in how we talk about socializing, a generation of students losing 1-2 years of normal academic and social development, mass shortages of basic items, the emergence of countless strange digital currencies based on mixtures of ideology, economics, and memes, politicians using the rhetoric of murder against their colleagues... How much more should I go on?
I don't think you can look at all of that and reasonably say "things are not stranger now"
Even if all of that had been going on previously (it has not) then greater awareness alone would still be enough provocation to push people into seeking the escapism of "RS".
Perhaps we are misunderstanding each other on the point that I'm making?
History. Rhymes. And all that.
Very well put! Every time I'm on LSD or psilocybin (or even THC in higher dosages) I think "I should learn how to properly meditate to get into this state of insight sober"
> Some of those who experience RS reported on social media that their practice was first described in a declassified CIA document titled “Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process.” (McDonnel, 1983). In the document’s 29 pages, the writer, Lieutenant Colonel Wayne McDonnell, outlined a method involving hypnosis and binaural audio stimulation designed to achieve equal amplitude and frequency of EEG patterns in both brain hemispheres. Its purpose seemed to have been the induction of out-of-body states capable of time travel, remote viewing, and, ultimately, information gathering (for a review on out-of-body experiences, see Cardeña and Alvarado, 2014)
This is referring to the very same HemiSync (by the Monroe Institute). Interesting.
I used to meditate/imagine natural environments in the 1980s and while in them, I'd move my perception through, looking for entities to talk to. I didn't know the term tulpa, but the notion of a spirit guide or totem is similar enough. It was better than full on dreaming, but wasn't lucid dreaming either.
Some of my friends had the shared waking fantasy that they could do things like mentally cause the traffic lights to change. I don't remember what they called it, but being public about it seems to be wrapped up in notions of membership and the ingroup.
I wouldn't be surprised if variations of what we did in teen culture then and what the authors are writing about are somewhat universal to adolescent minds. It might be a cognitive development stage, like how young kids go through a nightmare stage.
Were people paid to write this paper?
It sounds like their research was browsing wattpad and reddit for an afternoon.
>It sounds like their research was browsing wattpad and reddit for an afternoon.
They explicitly say these are locations of the community in the paper. I don't think this invalidates anything. When performing contemporary anthropology, it is pretty common to observe subjects in their normal environment.
Somewhat sad that one of the top fantasies for young women is to be partnered to a cruel and abusive Draco Malfoy. I'm guessing it is an extension of bad boy syndrome.
I’ve never been good in social situations and I generally avoid them, and I used this kind of day dreaming to play out various scenarios like a decision tree to “workshop” how to interact with specific people, and it has served me well for practical purposes, but I started using it more for “fun” since the pandemic.
Seems like a reinvention of empathy.
> I am a pretty empathetic person (maybe less so to strangers than friends),
I feel the same, strongly so in fact. I think the accuracy of the mental models used for empathizing depends on experience; experience with that specific person and one's own life experiences in general. The better I know a person, the more accurate my mental model of their behavior and feelings will be. General experience socializing with other people also enhances empathy since that experience enables somebody to create more accurate models of how people in general think or feel about things. Further, personal experiences allow somebody to better empathize with people who have similar experiences.
We discovered ‘rewriting personal history’ to be a useful tactic for addressing pain in the past. I am right now thinking of when and if I want to make myself fall in love with another person. Another one is the deliberate flooding of the self with sadness (e.g. read the names at war memorial) to drown out feelings of anger to (i) never even in the face of provocation and (ii) intensely influence the other party.
Sometimes I get a download from the ‘Department of Emergency Psychology’ such as the above techniques, a phoenix visualization, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapism
> Escapism is mental diversion from unpleasant or boring aspects of daily life, typically through activities involving imagination or entertainment. Escapism may be used to occupy one's self away from persistent feelings of depression or general sadness.
plus, mostly everyone dreams, even a nightmare is a dream, might as well think of alternatives to get yourself out of mental gridlock.
imagination is where abundance exist because abundance is the mindset of how we think about what we have in front of us. scarcity is the limiting of beliefs about the world around us. if we thought the cave was the only shelter none of us would be here sipping on lattes inside of a coffee shop scrolling yc
Maybe I'm an abberration in terms of how I write, but I don't think I'm that much of one. Most writers I interact with seems to spend much more time than you'd expect if they just played out a fantasy and wrote about it.
In the section where they compare to Lucid Dreaming it sounds identical to my mind (aside from certain trends in preferences for how the LD is set up—but a new trend in preferences for LD induction techniques is hardly headline-worthy).
Did I miss it or have they done any measurement of brain activity of reality shifters doing their thing?
Scenario:
Read on reddit about the flip flop. Check current status.
Movie Apollo 13: Calm and collected Tom Hanks says: uh Houston we've had a problem.
My childhood memory of this is more Frantic Tom Hanks: "Houston we have a problem".
I discussed this w/ my wife, and she watched it as well. She remembered the same as me.
Two days later, I'm reading a list of mandela effects one of which said: Apollo 13 Movie: Previous: Houston we've had a problem, current: Houston we have a problem.
I do a double take, and think that's a typo. Off to youtube to verify. It's now Houston we have a problem.
I wake my wife up at 6am to ask her what it said the other day and she tells me: Houston we've had a problem.
this disrupted my entire view of reality as at least somewhat 'solid/stable'. Led me down lots of research into quantum mechanics, physics, etc... as well as topics on what consciousness even is, or the possibility of living in a simulation.
I'm thinking simulation makes the most sense, and that reality is some sort of consensus mechanism like blockchain. What the majority 'remembers' becomes reality for all... though, it seems when polled a majority of people remember Fruit of the Loom having a cornucopia, and other than a trademark file from 1974, there was never any cornucopia associated w/ the company....
Tandem aside, that made me try /r/castaneda (dark room gazing), meditation, mindfulness, neville goddard/law of attraction, reality shifting, tulpamancy, etc.. just to see if I could maybe find a 'chink' in the armor of reality. Only thing I found was obsessing over that was ruining my life, and mental abilities except for the meditation practices, but I think the acts that supposedly bring on those scenarios (lucid dreaming/meditation) instead brought me to a realization I don't need those things to find happiness - except meditation maybe I still do that from time to time, and binaural sleep music occasionally for a deeper sleep.
I found the oddest stuff with /r/castaneda doing darkroom gazing where you spend 4 hours every night in pitch blackness, and try to see energy and eventually you do. Though I saw a huge spider while practicing this crawl up my leg and dissipate and I quickly stopped. I was awake, and it wasn't dark but it was after a week of practicing.
I think there's still stuff to find out, and I'd like to still pick around the edges of reality, but I don't want to be homeless either, and we still need to and deserve to have happiness here, and to do that we must be present.
Donald Hoffman who's done a number of talks/interviews on his theories and proofs that we are living in a simulation basically says that those who 'win' at life are those who don't 'know' we're in a simulation or speculate, something to do w/ evolution. Makes sense that you'd be happiest in a fake world if you didn't know it was fake, once you figure that out, how can you just go back to life as normal, or want to? Since, I have to live here, and have kids and a family I figure it's best to just keep trying to 'win' than focus too much on odd side effects of reality.
Interested in Mandela Effects or reality changing? I'd suggest /r/retconned for some interesting takes. There's a weird venn diagram of people who believe in ME's that includes religionists and less-theistic more-scientific people there's very weird fringe theories based on the bible, and then a bunch of people discussing quantum eraser experiments and how to run experiments to track changes to reality over time, some results that use md5 hashes on images that represent the change have actually seems somewhat interesting.
tldr: I know what I saw, and my wife saw it too, and it drove me mad, but I came back from madness to realize we can't just dissociate from reality even if reality is not 'true', because it's the only thing we have in life, and it's still a miracle even if it's fake.