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You don't need cable (anymore?) to subscribe to Crave.

Seems that's right, however according to this - https://www.finder.com/ca/internet-tv/cravetv you need to pay $19.98/mo + tax for Crave + HBO. There is no stand-alone HBO package in Canada, because of the Bell contract. Admittedly it's not much cheaper in the U.S and also owned by a large conglomerate.

Yes, I'm subscribed and I don't have cable. They changed the packages recently. HBO is no longer optional. The basic package is now $20 and includes HBO. But they added a new cheaper "mobile" plan which is $10, still includes HBO, but you can only watch on one device at a time.

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