The British Once Built a 1,100-Mile Hedge Through the Middle of India
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It is hard to say what the half of North America the US robbed from the "other Indians" ought to be assessed at.
Maybe we could cancel some debt.
Living in a world where might makes right dosent end well for anyone. Not even the victors, not anymore.
While we can't change the past we can learn from it, like South Africa. It takes some truth and reconciliation to make things better. Not perfect.
That's the goal, move the bar a little higher. Not solve everything all at once, that's impossible.
Better than " O well, thats history."
Its easy to make jokes, do the hard thing. That negativity really dosent add to anything.
Its not a constructive rework of history, acknowledgment and 'Vergangenheitsbewältigung'.
Its a political hammer to demonize and to demand reparations for a history that most people that were involved are long dead.
And somebody that wanted to make the opposite argument could make it by using different assumptions. To make such numbers based argument you need are realist alternative to compare against and we can endlessly argue about that.
When we talk about history we both need to talk about the exploitation of Bengal and we need to talk about how India is a democracy and how that is pretty crazy state of affairs that one would have considered highly unlikely in 1600. Considering every other great gun-powder empire is not a democracy. Trying to sum up 500 years of history into a single monetary number is not 'Vergangenheitsbewältigung' to me.
P.S: And btw, as I Swiss person I would really like some of that sweet French and Austrian money. Thanks.
But this all happens out of sight of Westerners, so it still works. Quote Sashi Tharoor with the left hand and vote BJP with the right; the white people won't understand.
“They’ve kept Dravidinians under their yoke for thousands of years.” Oh lord, there are tons of states that have majority of their own people and have their own laws and languages and industry. No one is keeping “Dravidians” under their yoke. I like how you use the word dravindians in hopes to invoke some emotional reaction to ancestry.
“Go into your average middle class Hindu’s house and take a look at the army of servants laboring, they don’t look like Bollywood actors” there are so many things wrong with this statement it needs to go to fail army. Cause Dravidian Indians whatever those are don’t have maids? Maids that are paid… everyone in middle class India has servants
“Dravindians will never be free until they rid the subcontinent of them” they are already free mate no one is in control of them. Whatever you have in your head is a dream. There are estimated 245 million people speaking Dravidian. I’m sure they are so oppressed in their home states and communities. Also using this Hindu are Iranians vs dravindians thing is so childish and disrespectful to the people of India. It’s people like you that further the idea of physical different between Indians and make this tribal style of fighting. People like you really have no life but to spread hate under the false pretext of education others when the reality is your statements only serve to further your ego. Nice try tho
Let’s look at some of your other comments. A very tiny sample..
“ If you read interviews with Afghan women (outside a small urban elite), they mention similar upsides to the Taliban. At least they prevent crime. At least they have principles, however harsh. At least they're predictable. At least they forced out the thugs that the Americans had backed.”
Very interesting
“The dravindians languages were brought to India by immigrants from Elam, a place in modern day Iran” congrats another fail
You have made similar comments in the past and have admitted to trolling.
Quoting your own posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29162093
Just open in incognito mode and click "I Accept"
Calling BS on this without the author providing any sources.
I have a strong feeling Indian labourers built 100% of this hedge.