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There is no way to do this in democratic way, French citizens already voted against it in 2005.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_European_Constit...

That was a rather flawed EU constitution document, not an attempt at federation. One could still have a federation with a sane constitution. (not saying one should, but it's entirely plausible)

No way its happening, so many countries have gained their independence recently in EU and are already fed up with the current format of union itself.

Those "recently independent" countries are fecked without EU, so they better jump on the train or be consumed by eastern threats

As far as physical security goes, the eastern members rely on NATO, which in practice means the USA. All the threatened countries (Baltics, Poland, Romania) rely on American deterrence as a last resort.

Within the EU, the German army is in no condition to fight, the British is, but UK left the club, and France is entangled in Africa.

To give some sense of how useless the German military is, a few years ago they didn't even have guns so they had to carry broomsticks and about shout "bang!".

https://www.newsweek.com/germany-cant-explain-use-broomstick...

At another point literally all of their submarines were broken. They couldn't send even a single one into combat.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/10/20/all-of-germanys...

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