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> When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job?

When we can and will do better.

FWIW, I heard Mozilla is offering full refunds to everyone that purchased Lockwise, which is way better than you'd get from any for-profit company.

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Full refunds? I get the ethics - but that means that this entire experiment was a very, very expensive failure that only caused a net loss to the brand and Mozilla's finances. Heads should roll in management, but they won't.

>was a very, very expensive

Why do you keep pretending to know this?

It doesn't take much math to know that Engineering Hours + 100% return of all money made + Damages from having money and then not having it + Labor and processing and lost credit card fees = Expensive experiment.

Also they laid off a major Firefox engineering division because of tight funds. You can't tell me that the side projects didn't have something to do with that.

But Lockwise is free. Was that the joke?

Yup, I was poking fun at the entitlement people feel toward FOSS developers who release free products.

Amusingly, the person railing against Mozilla didn't catch that it's free and used "the refunds" as an additional talking point against Mozilla.

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