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What other goodies will they find during discovery?

Hopefully the public can get snippets like in Epic Games v. Apple.

Isn't NSO Group an Israeli firm with close ties to government? I strongly doubt anything will come of this.

Can an upset judge decide to put the NSO leaders and employees on a terrorist list? They could argue it was an attack on national security if they can show some important person from US would have been hacked by a foreign government.

Then if EU could put the same guys also on the list maybe there would be some effects.

> Can an upset judge decide to put the NSO leaders and employees on a terrorist list?

For not replying to an EULA suit? I sure hope not, as much as I'd like to see NSO nailed to the wall.

I'm talking about the discovery process. Will we learn anything we don't know already if NSO isn't required to cooperate? Probably not.

A piece of advice I was given once and try to remember to follow is to, when commenting online, think "does this comment seem wrong if read out of context".

For example you wouldn't have had to come back to explain the context of your comment if your "I strongly doubt anything will come of this." had ended with "..come of this in discovery."

> Can an upset judge decide to put the NSO leaders and employees on a terrorist list?

They can hold them in contempt, which leads to arrest warrants. Default judgements can then enable the creditor, in this case Apple, to start seizing assets. But TL; DR no, a judge can't put someone on a terrorist list; that's a national security and thus executive function.

At least one of the founders can be found from American homesoil NYC but we know very well nothing will come out of it because of the Israeli love story Americans have.

I'm imagining just a screen shot of a middle finger in response to discovery requests.

NSO have started threating to release dirt on Israeli politicians because they are unhappy that the Israeli government isn't covering for them.

source? My thought is if you tried this in israel the actual intelligence apparatus would have you picked up pretty quickly and in a dark hole for as long as they wanted.

They are part of the actual intelligence apparatus, or at least former. The execs are former members of Unit 8200, the Israeli SIGINT org. And companies like their's are where former IDF SIGINT officers go after service. And their company is a major piece of Israeli diplomacy; access to their software was one of the carrots Israel has been using to push gulf state away from Iran.

So no source and no understanding that because of compulsive military service most of Israel is ex military and no intelligence agency will allow the government to be blackmailed by a private intelligence firm?

Seems like a conspiracy theorist to me.

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