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Just a reminder that medical consent is your right. You have the right to say no to any medical procedure for any reason.

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This is absolutely true. Rights are also responsibilities.

Inasmuch as you have a right to authorize or deny medical procedures on your own body, you are responsible for how your own body affects those around you. When you allow your body to become a vector for transmission you bear responsibility for spreading the disease.

Only way to not spread this disease is quarantine and testing. Why aren't vaccinated doing that? Why are they so evil or callous that they take risk of spreading it? Why isn't there talk that anyone who wants to protect others must regularly take the test?

Several universities I have colleagues at have regular testing requirements for all uni community members, on top of vaccine requirements. Maybe it could be a more widespread thing, but I think you make it seem more one sided than it is.

What do you mean? I'm fully vaxxed, and I get tested twice a week. If I ever get a positive result, I'll quarantine.

The cruel workaround that's playing counter to this is to diminish the person's life and freedoms until they take it out of desperation, and if they still don't give in; forsake the pretence of choice and mandate it anyway.

Windows 10 all over again?

The unvaccinated diminish other’s lives by being a vector. Why in your opinion are they entitled to do that?

Medical consent is their right. They have the right to say no to any medical procedure for any reason. Right there in the GP funnily enough.

I was not disputing that. I was disputing that it’s a “cruel workaround” to eg require that people who work with the public get a vaccination to keep their job. Those who choose not to get to vaccinated are not entitled to force their presence on private individuals and to a certain extent the public.

I'm not explaining why segregation is cruel to you.

It’s really more of a quarantine.

I encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated, but vaccinated people are also vectors. The vaccines don't reliably prevent infection or transmission.

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immu...

As far as we know now, vaccinated people who contract covid shed less virus for a shorter period of time: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-var...

Yes but so what? Since the virus is now endemic and can't be eradicated, all of us will be exposed multiple times throughout our lives no matter what we do or how many people are vaccinated. Vaccination provides good protection against severe symptoms, but over the long run it won't prevent others from being exposed.

I imagine you know this, but maybe there’s some reason you think it doesn’t matter: It will lower the rate of exposure.

And the rest of society has the right to exclude you if your carrying a deadly virus.

So why don't we mandate testing from the vaccinated? Isn't that only way to guarantee that they don't spread this disease?

Perhaps tangential but you actually do not have the right to refuse quarantine.

Some countries have mandatory measles vaccination.

Also (to contradict your statement) if police believes your are DUI they can force to take your blood, is this different in the US?

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