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This article isn't about labor camps or the CCP's secret police. If you look at the censorship itself, the gap is much more narrow.

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That’s not the point. OP tried to draw a comparison that private enterprises in the US do the same thing — they do not. The false equivalence ends at the point where the CCP actively controls what these companies do in terms of enforcement, and the mass surveillance apparatus is intrinsically linked.

> That’s not the point. OP tried to draw a comparison that private enterprises in the US do the same thing — they do not.

FB/GOOG absolutely do. You may trust the USG or the companies it pressures into this domain of behavior more than the CCP/Xiaomi (or may not - it is not relevant to this point) but the comparison is there.

Please cite a source where discussing American historical atrocities on social media gets you whisked away by the secret police.

Obviously I agree with you, but you could ask a Chinese citizen the same thing and they'd be able to provide no evidence for their own country

Right, but that’s kind of the irony — the collection of atrocities that stain the tapestry of America’s history are readily accessible, actively acknowledged on repeat on social media (ad infinitum at times, even), and (mostly, depending on locale) even taught in public schools. Trying to even discuss the notion on WeChat could send you to reeducation camps. Here it’s a series of chapters in textbooks.

Omitting the Native American Genocide, you mean.

I’m Cherokee. I first learned about the Trail of Tears in public school before I heard about it from my family.

Weird this is readily accessible in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_genoc...

I first learned of my state, Washington, and the abuses of its Klickitat people in 5th grade and continued to learn of the Native massacres through middle school all the way through to the end of the high school.

There's no day in the US where remembering a day equivalent to violently pancaking protestors beneath tank treads (take your pick of our atrocities) was censored everywhere as was the case recently on the day of the Tiananmen Square massacre in China.

The subject of the post is censorship in the west (Europe, in this case by Xiaomi). Of course speech is dealt with differently in China.

It's amazing that people still have their heads in the sand about this when evidence to the contrary comes out regularly, e.g. PRISM, CIA coordination with the LA Times and New York Times, and Biden's press secretary Psaki directly saying they work with social media companies to determine censorship policies.

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