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CNN tried Tesla's 'full self-driving' mode on NYC streets. It didn't go great

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Well clearly that’s on CNN. What kind of person thinks “full self-driving” means full self-driving?

Tesla tend to be optimistic, it's more of a driving half full rather than a driving half empty type of deal I suppose.

I wonder if CNN thinks the same way about their company name

QED

Self-driving is gonna be a whole generation beyond wide acceptance of EV. It’s def two diff market battles.

EVs prob mainstream in 5-8 years.

I kind of hate that Tesla made this such a focus for their cars. I think we’d have been better served by them being more focused on just good electric cars. It feel like I’m in the minority though, because it seems to have worked out well for them. Even with many years of delays, and many more years before things are solid, they’re as popular as ever.

Part of TSLA's trillion dollar market cap is predicated on a lot of retail investors believing that the Tesla cars they already own will one day receive an update that will allow the cars to act as driverless robotaxis, and that will generate income for their owners while they sleep.

How is this business model that much different than hiring a taxi driver, buying them a car, buying a license and forming your own one man business? Sure you now need to pay the drivers salary but your profit margins will be the same as with a tesla.

What I’m not sure about is whether the investors believe that will be the case, or if they just believe saying it will help the stock value. I see a lot of talk of how far Elon exaggerates, so I find myself wondering if it’s a bit of a shared delusion, where no one really believes the claims, but everyone thinks that everyone else believes it.

Im surprised I don't hear more about self driving tests + training on NYC roads. You will see random crap in NYC all the time.

A random block party that springs up that uses a few trash cans to block off a road.

Road signs that don't make sense versus the painted road markers that force you to go "fuck it" and try and make the best of it

People riding e-scooters or e-bikes on a non bike road right on the edges.

So much shit to deal with

> So much shit to deal with

That's why only the most established SDC companies, namely MobilEye and now Waymo are doing it in NYC. This fact also tells who "has it" and who's just sales talks and promises.

It will get better. The fact that cars are doing this with computer vision at all is incredible.

Since it is just a driver assistance system, the user will only turn it on when they feel it is useful. The interior camera is used for driver monitoring to make sure that people don't use their phone / fall asleep etc.

Encourage everyone to try this latest software if you can, it's incredible.

NYC (Brooklyn) and similar are relatively outliers. They should have taken it to Nothern NJ or even North Eastern PA and see how it worked going from McMansion to train or bus station.

Yes, this test - someday - would be ideal. But for now it belittles what otherwise could be a win for plenty of commuters.

That undermines the "Full" in full self-driving.

"Yes, this test - someday - would be ideal. But for now it belittles what otherwise could be a win for plenty of commuters."

The point is, CNN went for glass 20% empty, instead of 80% full.

With this level of supervision reqd how is it a win

Even just interstate full self-driving (if it were really full, i.e. no supervision) would be a big win for a lot of people. I live about an hour from a major city. I could do most of the drive on interstates (and probably 75% on non-urban roads). And that would be a huge win relative to driving myself.

For actual long distance mostly interstate drives? A huge win. While there's been some focus on this at specific car manufacturers, probably more interesting overall than the urbanite who wants a ride home from the bar.

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