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> We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet

I'm astonished there are people that think like this on HN

Seems significantly more likely than not this current pandemic originated via a lab leak. Although the comment makes it sound like it was on purpose, rather than an accident which again seems most likely.

Sorta. To your point, it hasn't been proven that it's a lab leak, though evidence has shifted toward that direction. My issue with OP's comment is that he stated it was a lab leak with absolute certainty.

It's unfortunate that all of this got politicized, but the fact is that nobody knows for sure where it came from nor does anyone know for sure where it didn't come from.

I would say it's not a waste of time to review what labs are doing all over the world since the stakes are so high.

Everything in modern society is scientist-caused if you go deep enough.

Well, until you hit the philosopher layer.

I'd be d'accord if he said something to the effect of:

> We aren’t even through the current possibly scientist-caused pandemic yet

Peter Daszak should have to testify before Congress, imo.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29269142

Over in the other thread, we're discussing Kasparov admitting that China definitely covered up evidence from their Wuhan lab regardless of whether or not they were actually responsible for a leak.

Couple of things to clarify here:

- In that article, Kasparov only says that the Trump administration said that, and then he discusses the discourse around that claim in 2020. He does not "[admit] that China definitely covered up evidence from their Wuhan lab" or anything like that. EDIT: I stand corrected on this point.

- Nobody in that thread has actually yet mentioned that COVID claim (at the time of my comment), they're all sticking to what Kasparov's piece is about, which is mob mentality and group think.

>Invaluable months were lost, time the Chinese Communist Party used to destroy data and spread disinformation about the virus’s origins. We may never know the truth, but we do know there was a coverup.

Maybe we're just interpreting the above statement in two different ways.

I stand corrected on that point and will edit my post accordingly, but there's still absolutely zero discussion about that point in that thread. You even said, "we're discussing" but you haven't even commented there yourself.

That Covid is caused by a lab leak?

China is known for making cheap stuff. High quality products with safety in mind? Not so much. Why should their lab procedures be better?

>I'm astonished there are people that think like this on HN

you're just probably not aware that Daszak's Wuhan coronavirus gain-of-function program included human testing. It is actually specified in the clear on the EcoAlliance's NIH approved grant for the Wuhan in 2014.

In 2018 he tried to double dip by going to DARPA for money for the human specific virus genetic modifications of the type that later were found present in the COVID-19 which supposedly magically "naturally" appeared right near the Wuhan lab (and thousand kilometers away from its natural brethren) in the late 2019.

I'm astonished that some people on HN still believe in the "naturality" of the COVID-19.

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