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I agree. My jump was from Windows 7, when MS announced requirements for Windows 11 that seemed to try the trusted computing thing again. I have Windows 10 in a VM. It is not horrible once debloated, but my daily driver at this point is PopOS, which I can happily recommend.

If only we could now get linux phone done ( and no, mobile ubuntu does not count ) to where desktop is today, I think I would be content.

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> ( and no, mobile ubuntu does not count )

How about Librem 5: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5?

52 week wait and overpriced.

If you want to change the industry, you have to vote with your wallet. There is no other way.

If you want to change the industry you have to provide the wanted product.

And for free please. /s

/s usually means sarcasm, not stupidity.

Sarcasm is exactly what I wanted to show. You do not like the price as if there was a wide choice of options. In reality, this is the price of a change. Otherwise it's is akin to free, because the company would have to pay the difference for you.

Not to mention 32GB storage, that's a 10? year lag on technology. Well, that could work if their ecosystem isn't bloated.

You can put a 2 TB microSD in it.

Not sure what is meant by where "desktop is today" unless you have a desktop that consists of thouchscreen display and no keyboard and mouse, but I would not want a phone that is operated as Linux desktop, because phone has to be phone first.

There are some others - Sailfish OS, Pure OS, Plasma Mobile and Manjaro for ARM - there are a lot of Linux based phones nowadays(Android is one of them).

By phrase reference to desktop, I mean that desktop experience on Linux for me is now comparable, if not noticeably better than Windows. I am genuinely more productive now despite certain gripes with Gnome. Stuff generally just works. The stuff that does not work, I can emulate or put in VM.

Now when I try to compare my current linux phone ( Pine ) with default Ubuntu to a cheapest android phone, the experience is just lacking. I know other OSs are available, and they were still underwhelming at the time. Has it gotten any better? I would love to try Librem, but I can't justify dropping $1999 for US version ( the non-US version has heavy lead time now ).

I am not saying the option is not there. It is just not ready for prime time.

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