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Yeah that sucks, but on OSX side I have to restart my computer every week or so because of forced updates.

Restarting really is a big deal for me as my workspace consists of several dozen open windows, some of them I have to login, navigate to a particular place, etc... also you lose your train of thought. It has gotten that bad for me, that I have to take screenshots before restarting every time, so I don't lose track of where I was.

I understand not everybody has my same use case but for me it truly is a PITA.

Of course, the alternative is to just click on "Install Later" every 8 hours for the rest of your life, and then the one time you miss that button for a few pixels and click on "Install Now" everything gets closed and obliterated in an instant. But yeah, at least now I have the latest version of Safari which I haven't used in 10 years.

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> Yeah that sucks, but on OSX side I have to restart my computer every week or so because of forced updates.

Huh? I think I restart my Mac for updates perhaps quarterly, and I can't recall it ever being forced.

Perhaps we live in different realities that happen to be connected through Hacker News.

In my timeline, Apple users have to deal with this -> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

But you don't have to update. The consequence is that every day you have to choose "Ask me later" on the notification that pops up once a day, but that's a lot easier than restoring everything I have open. I only update when I have to reboot for some reason.

Sure, read the last paragraph of my original comment.

This nagging is currently my #1 reason for considering switching away from OS X.

The really weird thing is that I have an older iMac that seems to be powered on constantly (albeit with the screen off - I don't understand why) and also an M1 Macbook Air which does genuinely go to sleep with the lid closed. I seldom use either of them more than once every week or two. The iMac sporadically reboots itself without my consent, presumably to install updates. The Macbook Air has been running since the day it was delivered to my door without ever rebooting (100+ days uptime).

Of course its better to have a system which will not install the updates automatically and will just be stuck at restart (windows 10 wink).

If i disable apple updates on a macbook, it will show the notification but will never update without my permission, good luck doing that on windows.

You are not forced to update on windows pro, only in the home edition

MacOS Monterey added an option to disable automatic updates. It's been the biggest annoyance for years, now it's just a checkbox in settings.

Thank you, I didn't know that. That's actually a big incentive for me to update.

> MacOS Monterey added an option to disable automatic updates. It's been the biggest annoyance for years, now it's just a checkbox in settings

The ability to disable automatic updates goes back far more years than I can remember - possibly even a decade.

You could disable the auto install, but not the nag.

I get updates every two weeks, and I’m on the developer builds of macOS. There’s no way you’re getting weekly, mandatory macOS updates.

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