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I don't know, I think if you're interested in VR/AR, wearables, computer vision, building products for the "creator" generation, or even crypto (Novi) then FB/Meta probably has the best work pitch of all the FAANGs.

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If you wanted to work on those things I'd think the last thing you'd want is for your work to be owned by them when you're done, though.

Not everybody wants to be a founder or deal with the bad WLB of a startup.

It's nice to be paid a reliable 400k/year and work on something you think is cool.

Facebook…erhm Meta.. makes cool and useful services. My uneducated guess is about 20% of their efforts go to delivering something compelling to the user. The remainder goes to figure out how they can manipulate, coerce, farm, and monetize said users. The problem is the level of perversion they have done and justified due to the need to monetize.

I had a guy pitch me on Comcast's tech office once.

He said you get to work on cool stuff, but it never actually gets deployed. And that everyone hates your employer, but you'll never get fired.

I definitely see how "work on cool stuff" + "don't worry about getting fired" could be pretty cool, if you don't have any investment in really creating things that are used.

That value proposition of stability is a high for those that have a life outside of work. Why does a typical engineer optimize for leetcode and FAANG salaries? Because they have shit else to establish self respect.

That seems unnecessarily harsh.

I've known a lot of people who have a thriving life outside of work, but are also very driven and value their work highly.

Essentially its ok to sell your soul for 40 hours (likely more) a week as long as it allows you to pursue your own interests outside of work.

Not the last thing, or at least not the worst company to choose if that's important -

Oculus research has a better track record of publishing AR/VR research and opening up old hardware (unlocked Oculus Go) than anyone else doing serious AR/VR work.

Apple, on the other hand...

> better track record ... opening up old hardware (unlocked Oculus Go)

This one thing that happened 3 weeks ago is a "track record"?

Sorry to go a bit meta. I can't help but notice that a reply to comment that mentions F1, is from a user handle named Jensen Button.

As long as it isn't GPT-3... (:

You may be running outside your traction circle here, son. :)

I definitely had F1 on my mind yesterday and the mention certainly wasn't missed :)

Google has by far the best team in computer vision.

There are enough companies that offer competitive salaries to FAANG and interesting work in those spaces. That FB is the best of a list of companies wall street grouped should be the notable factor.

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