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> The numbers are dominated by the pre-vaccination wave

YES this right here is such a deliberate sleight of hand by the media, and as GP demonstrated they get away with it a lot!

> 1:9 unvax:vax

Shouldn't this be the other way around? 9 unvaxxed dying for every 1 vaxxed? Otherwise I'm not seeing the quoted claim in the report you linked.

The closest I've been able to find for the U.S. is this Connecticut report on hospitalization. Unfortunately it omits unvaccinated deaths, but we see hospitalizations at a rate of 4:1 (unvax:vax)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Good call. Turns out I did make an error, reading just the >80 column thinking it's 'total', because it happened that that line dominated the table. There are definitely more vax deaths than unvax covid deaths in week 40-44 in UK, but the ratio is smaller that 1:9. Brb, running excel to sum the whole columns. Table 4b, page 19 for raw data.

Edit: The totals come at 669 unvax deaths vs. 3011 vax deaths. The raw numbers ratio is roughly 2:8 unvax:vax. This is not VE, as it is not adjusted to vax levels in the population. It is just a sanity check of certain claims in the US media.

  age    unvax   double vax
  <18    7       0
  18-29  9       5
  30-39  24      9
  40-49  56      46
  50-59  104     126
  60-69  157     355
  70-79  131     822
  >80    181     1648
  total  669     3011

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