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Pretty sure that circumcision reduces chances of HPV significantly.

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So would cutting off their penises. Utilitarian arguments maximizing for single variables suck.

If you removed the whole thing you'd have even less chance of getting HPV.

Good news we've fixed that problem with proper science: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/public/index.html

Pretty sure that bathing has the same effect.

How does circumcising compare with vaccination? I would think vaccinations might be much less medically risky.

There's a vaccine for boys when they hit puberty.

Pretty sure there are better ways to not catch the disease than making man a cripple.

Speak for yourself. I'm not "crippled". Circumcision has never affected me negatively in my entire life (was circumcised as a new born).

How about don't throw names around like that?

>Circumcision has never affected me negatively in my entire life

Said with all respect - you don't know that.

And how would you know what your feelings would be like without the circumcision? Not like you've ever experienced the alternative…

Don't know what you don't know. Vision also decreases with age slowly so nobody calls people wihout 20/20 vision disabled. Matter of perception. To uncut people this is a disability, to those who were circumcised it's just a gradation of not being able to feel pleasure from intercourse.

Crippled seems apt though.

The foreskin has a very high density of fine touch and pressure receptors that are directly involved in the pleasing sensations.

You've been amputated of your ability to experience sexual pleasure to its full extent.

Please don't post name-calling posts on provocative topics. That's flamebait, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, and I'm sure you can make your substantive points without it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Can't agree that it's "name-calling", just stating the obvious fact that men lose over 60% of sensetivity down there at birth for no reason, without being given a choice. But I do understand your intention is to keep this board clean and friendly. This topic is no more provocative than e.g. abortion, and doesn't really belong on HN in the first place.

I also don't agree that it's flame bait. Political correctness is the language of cowards. And cowards get their and their kids' genitals mutilated. There's a real issue, and not calling it what it is is just letting it keep rolling forever without anyone having courage to do anything about it.

"Cripple" certainly counts as name-calling in this context.

Of course it's a real issue, and a provocative one. You (i.e. all of us) are responsible not for setting threads on fire when that is the case. This applies regardless of how right you are, or feel you are. Indeed, the more right you are, the more important this becomes—otherwise you end up discrediting the truth, which hurts everybody (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).

We don't care about political correctness—we care about discussion quality. When you post the way you did upthread, and also in this reply, it leads to predictably poorer-quality discussion. Your comment is responsible for that (if you or anyone want more explanation of why I say that, there's lots at these links.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28932445

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28953253

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27162386

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

There's a lot of truth in what you're saying, you're making a good point, and I will try to be more respectable next time. Thank you for the explanation and providing the references.

Appreciated!

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