Amazon, Dropbox, Google and You Win in Cloud-Music Copyright Decision
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Another way of putting this: if the host does not knowingly countenance infringing acts, and if it diligently complies with takedown notices identifying specific items that are infringing, it is immunized from liability for infringement, whether direct, contributory, or vicarious. In other words, Congress passed the DMCA to facilitate the growth and maintenance of robust internet services and the courts will give the law its proper force notwithstanding the efforts of content providers to try to finagle new revenues through aggressive lawsuits attacking the services. In this sense, the opinion is a well-reasoned extension of Viacom, which was decided last year in favor of Google and YouTube on a grant of summary judgment (my comments on Viacom: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1456757). Here too the decision was on summary judgment (what summary judgment means: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1457388).
At the same time, MP3tunes got nailed here for failing to follow up properly on the takedown notices in the sense of taking steps to remove properly identified infringing materials from the lockers of users. On this point, the court granted judgment for EMI based on affidavits alone and held MP3tunes liable even without a trial. Again, a big part of the court's reasoning was devoted to this point.
On a final note, the copyright law is complex on the issue of de-duplicating storage (a previous comment of mine on this is here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2535137; for some commentary by EFF, see here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/05/current-music-locker-s...). Common sense, of course, dictates that a user who has already bought a piece of music, who uploads it into a service, and who enjoys listening to it through that service is doing nothing more than getting the benefit of something legally purchased. The problem is that law often fails to keep up with changing technology. Thus, well-established copyright principles (decided years ago in the offline world) say that one engages in a "public performance" if he uses one copy of a copyrighted item to enable members of the public to view or listen to it serially (this is the so-called "master copy" reference mentioned in the decision). Of course, it is not really "one copy" if each user individually uploads his own copy and then replays it. But is it the user's own copy if it is de-duplicated? This decision says it is but this is by no means a foregone conclusion under the law and that is why Amazon and Google have taken the conservative route and have not used de-duplication. In fact, it is an area of great uncertainty. This decision, good as it is on the point, does not change that. This is a trial court decision that has no legally binding effect beyond its impact on the parties immediately before the court. It will be appealed and who knows what will happen at the next level? I would seriously doubt that major services like Google's will think themselves safe to de-duplicate their storage just yet.
All in all, a very good decision but very likely not the final word on these issues.
"We have to store 50,000 copies of the same music on CD's and records in order to sell them, which takes up retail space and storage space - so you must do the same thing too! Amazon, Google, you guys better buy 50,000 hard drives to store the music, otherwise you guys are cheating!"
If the music industry wasn't so inflexible maybe HMV and music retailers can move to "cd's on demand" or "ipods on demand" where they provide a stack of blank cd's or allow you to plug your ipod/iphone/media player in store and buy the music right at the music shop where the Music industry can control the user experience (ie they can have kiosks, signed merchandise like t-shirts, etc on the side for impulse buys, etc) - it's like the nintendo stores - just with music stuff.
Just this move alone possibly can save indie music stores, but no ... the music industry is so backwards.
It looks like EMI prevailed on some claims, but not the claim that de-duplicated storage is itself a copyright violation.
> While the latter case still seems non-sensical, the ruling still must come as a relief to Google, Amazon and Dropbox.
Come on, how is that non-sensical? It'd be dead simple to set the ID3 tags of any 4MB mp3 file to match the tags accepted for a given song. From what I read, and the legalspeak got pretty heavy so I may have missed it, there wasn't any discussion of audio fingerprinting or more advanced ways to determine two files are the same song.
Want an entire artist's discography? Use a 15KB app which spits out 100 junk MP3 files with the right ID3 tags and submit them to MP3Tunes. If we do what this author considers "sensical," you should get the real music back.
On the other hand, Cloud Drive nailed that use case perfectly, but getting my music into the system would require lots of tedious manual uploading.
That said, I've recently realized that I don't really like my music. That is, I'm much more interested in effective music discovery apps like Pandora, Grooveshark, and Turntable.fm.
Can't wait to see the Google+ spin on Google Music...
> EMI argues that MP3tunes' storage system violates its right to public performance, because, much like Robertson's earlier effort at online music storage with MP3.com, MP3tunes employs a "master copy" to rebroadcast songs to users who uploaded different copies of the same song. ... EMI's argument, however, mischaracterizes MP3tunes' storage system. The record demonstrates that MP3tunes does not use a "master copy" to store or play back songs stored in its lockers. Instead, MP3tunes uses a standard data compression algorithm that eliminates redundant digital data. Importantly, the system preserves the exact digital copy of each song uploaded to MP3tunes.com.
> The lawsuit brought by the RIAA and filed in the Southern District of New York claims that MP3.com created an illegal database of 45,000 CDs, which the company purchased and uploaded on to MP3.com's servers. The suit sought to shut down the service.
> Users who sign up for the my.mp3.com service are able to stream music from that database to any device that can access the Internet.
> "We think this is a loss for the labels," Robertson said during a conference call Friday. "When a responsible system like my.mp3.com, which requires people to buy the CDs before they can listen to the music is potentially halted, that leaves a vacuum for other services like Napster and Gnutella -- which don't protect artists -- to flourish." ...
> Users cannot access music from MP3.com's database until they load a physical CD that contains the album into their computer.
I was under the impression that the bit-for-bit duplicates weren't the only things Google et al had their sights on though, i.e., they were hoping to do something along the lines of iCloud. Was I mistaken?
In any case, it's a shame that it was necessary to go through the judicial hoopla to determine that it's okay to practice what's more commonly known as "compression".
As a user however, I think it's a little 'scary' as it per default requires the service provider to have access to encryption/decryption information, hence no 'zero-knowledge' storage policy is possible.
"By contrast, Apple’s new cloud-music service — created with the blessing of the big labels, only uploads the songs it doesn’t know — and uses master files. In fact, if a customer has a low-quality copy of a song from one of those labels, Apple will automatically upgrade the song to a better one."
Besides, this ruling has very little effect on iCloud since it's already sanctioned by the music labels. What else would you have liked for them to say about iCloud?