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Is Kwin usable without plasmashell / the rest of KDE? I always thought they were pretty tightly integrated.

I feel we're currently missing a minimalist stacking Wayland compositor in the vein of something like openbox.

KWin is indeed usable without the rest of KDE. It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example.

Also, I'm not very educated in this matter, but isn't wlroots a fairly good Wayland compositor? Considering sway is built on it and supports both tiling and stacking, I think that might be worth a look.

> It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example.

But that's on X11 then, right?

Yes, although KWin now supports Wayland quite a bit. There's an explanation here: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Why_Plasma_needs_Wayl...

As I understand it, wlroots is more of a library that you can build a Wayland compositor on top of (sway being one example). It's not a compositor in and of itself.

It still might be a good choice for LXQt if they do plan on supporting Wayland, though.

One wlroots possibility would be Wayfire https://wayfire.org/

It's usable and some people in the automobile industry are interested in using it in an embedded context.

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