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Apple laptops are twice as expensive as x86 hardware but not twice as powerful.

What other kind ofARM hardware can we buy beside Apple laptops?

A Dell Latitude 5520 Laptop, 15inch, 4k, 2TB SSD is $4,099.00 form Dell (after a 35% off coupon). A Apple M1 MAx 16 inch, with a far better display both in quality and display, better keyboard, same storage is also $4099.

Hmm. I don't know that model, but I have bought two Dell XPS15s in the past year. One had 4K, 64G RAM, 2T SSD and 8 cores. It was $2500. The other was slightly lower spec and $2400.

Just wondering: why?

PC laptop pricing fluctuates so much and I don't know why. You can kit out a ThinkPad P15 with these specs for ~2500 right now. Next month the prices will be flipped. Go figure. At least Apple is consistently priced high.

ThinkPads are made of shitty plastic, have stupid keyboard layouts, worse trackpads, and come preloaded with malware/bloatware. I say this an exclusive x86 user. ThinkPads are average quality tools, MacBooks are delightful, beautifully designed devices. Really tempted to switch

There was a reason why you didn't before. If you are willing to give that reason up in exchange of some pretty pixels, go for it.

are you trying to troll?

Thinkpads are notoriously well made. 'shitty plastic' is ultra durable. Macs are great if you are ok being locked into the Apple ecosystem

I don't understand how having a Mac locks you into the Apple ecosystem.

In real world use I don't notice any difference in restrictions from my Ubuntu server.

Can you run a different window manager?

Unpopular opinion: Aluminum Unibody is worst for ergonomics. I prefer plastics.

Surface Pro X, Qualcomm laptops that run Windows 10 x64 emulation, JingPad, https://en.jingos.com/jingpad-a1/ and PineBook https://pine64.com/product/14%e2%80%b3-pinebook-pro-linux-la...

You can also buy RISCV if you want something more open and not ARM.

But if my workload matches what the M1 is good at, I’d rather have a super quiet, cool laptop that can give me max performance off the battery for the whole day.

They are almost 2x as power efficient.

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