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>There are plenty of reasonable ones out there.

That may be true. I have a good middle class friend that move from the US to Norway for higher taxes but great social programs. If you can handle the winter, not a bad deal. He loves it. Interesting that the citizenship decision might be moving closer to something like the job search.

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Funny, my wife, friends and I were making a short-list of some reasonable US alternatives last night (we've both lived much of our lives outside the US though are in it now) and all our top picks were cold, northern, and civilized. Norway was on it.

Singapore? It's civilized, jungle hot and crowded.

Based in HK for a long time, spent lots of time working in SG as well and have family there now. We've talked about going back there too.

I like what they've done to push cultural development (something HK never did effectively or seriously). Still a bit too fascist disney, but since we have kids it's pretty fam friendly.

I'd say it's on our list for a short term stay, a couple years maybe. Penang too, which is a slower pace, differnt vibe.

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