Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
real-italian-coffee.herokuapp.com
real-italian-coffee.herokuapp.com
- make the "Give me a Coffee name" button 5x larger
- place the button and generated name in the middle of the page, not at the bottom
- remove the pink border from the secondary title ("Create your own...") because it looks like a button.
As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something.
Any native American can help me understand the difference between making fun of Asians/Blacks/other groups and italo-americans?
Neither are Asian Americans? Despite what the media wants you to believe
See: https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/immigration/italian/...
This concept is basically a get out of jail free card people can use when they cross certain lines that is based on made up pretense that there exists a universal scale of power and weakness.
It’s a manipulative tool that some people thought up to control conversation.
Italian Americans don't have to worry about this sort of institutional racism (at least not in generations), so it's easier to assume these jokes are honest attempts at humor vs bigotry.
I don't mind these movies at all, but there do seem to be double standards.
There doesn't seem to be a double standard.
0 - https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/21/one-third-o...
Back in the US if you were to do similar to a Mexican, you’d be accused of racism for mimicking their accent or making fun of some part of their physiology they cannot change.
See, people keep on redefining things. So a Mexican-American being from a “super power” what, they can be made fun of by white Mexicans because?
What about Chinese from China, now that they are super power, does everyone get to pile on any individual because as a group they are powerful (based on PPP they are on par or surpassed us).
It all bullshit. If it’s not for me or it’s not right for them, then it’s not right for anyone.
A few years ago, the right was blowing up about "reverse racism" or racism against white folks (I'm speaking exclusively about the US now, because that's really all that I know) but that's not possible in America because whites are the most privileged race. Are there some poor white people? Absolutely. BUT (and this is the integral part) the systems of power don't work to keep poor white people poor in the same way that they work to keep poor black people poor. There's no assumption of guilt when it comes to white folks. Despite equal rates of drug use, white people are less likely to wind up in prison/jail for drug offenses than are black folks or other minorities.
Racism might be different in China, I'm not sure.
Also, while I'm on the subject (this isn't directly related to what you said, but it's related), the reference to race isn't racism. I've seen the attitude that to acknowledge race is racism a lot here on HN, and it's just false. I've seen it used to essentially silence people who say "as a black person, I perceive this as..." which is an extension of racism: the false idea that the victim of racism can't identify the racism because to identify the racism requires that they bring up race in a conversation in which race wasn't overtly called out.
Racism is a power-dynamic and a set of systems to maintain that power dynamic.
Can someone from LatAm be racist against a North American black, what about against an Caribbean littoral black? A Guatemalan vs a Belizean? Or vice versa? A Chinese from China in Mexico vs an ethnic Chinese in Mexico vs, have your pick.
Punching up or down isn't about the relative superiority or inferiority of groups, it's about the human made power dynamics that exist between them.
Never the less, it's ridiculous to think that a Mexican cannot be racist against an American or a Honduran or whatever.
Mexico imported slaves from Africa and that wasn't abolished till the 1830s though there was an exception that allowed importation of slaves from Texas.
> Any native American can help me understand the difference between making fun of Asians/Blacks/other groups and italo-americans?
You know what "native american" means in (American) English, don't you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United...
To use your own words: I wrote native American and not Native American, didn't I? Do you know what "native" with a lowercase lettee means, don't you?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native
As a side note, an unrequested advice: As you said, you probably didn't mean it this way but you sound detestable.
Cheers and thank you.
If you're non-white and making fun of white people it can also be light mockery of your oppressors depending on the context. It has "court jester making fun of the king" energy.
Why it's almost always not kosher for white people to make fun of non-whites is because the default interpretation of jokes among non-equals is bullying and mockery. It can be done but it has to be done with extreme care.
The topical example of jokes among more complicated non-equals going extremely poorly is Chappelle's treatment of the trans community. It's not that trans folks are "off limits", you can find plenty of comedians and people on social media that make tasteful jokes at the expense of trans folks, but Chappelle's jokes just came off mean and weren't things that any trans person would react like, "haha that's so true!"
> Don't treat others in the ways you don't want to be treated.
How others treat us is irrelevant to how we should behave. There are many craps we get but it is not a excuse to unload the same craps back.
Edit: I expected it to automatically generate a coffee name. So when I first viewed the page, I assumed it was broken due to the HN "Hug of Death" and left. I only viewed it again because I was surprised about the number of upvotes.
My favorite coffee name so far is definitely Urino Decaffeinato
I think I was drinking that this morning.
100% worth the time. This was a wonderful way to start the day.
Reminded me of "Tech Names as a service" from Vincent Warmerdam on pyData 2017 (Berlin) [1].
The term "caffè Americano" specifically is Italian for "American coffee". There is a popular, but unconfirmed, belief that the name has its origins in World War II when American G.I.s in Italy would dilute espresso with hot water to approximate the coffee to which they were accustomed."
Especially the "Angered Italians (AI) Recurrent Neural Network" made me (and hopefully her) crack up.
The real joke is the fact that most Italians look at US coffee with a sense of either vague or specific disappointment. Does not matter what fancy name you come up with.
On the other hand you could try asking an Italian barista for a Latte and see what you end up with.
Many people work backwards from a domain name to build their business/project/whatever. That is, the domain is dreamed up first before the name, instead of having a name for a project and then looking for a corresponding domain.
(Lobster Butter Love is from Roos Roast in The People's Republic of Ann Arbor, Michigan)
Thank you, OP, for making this site, it made me laugh :)
Next one was Effusione Mortando, possibly available at the Pastaway Cafe over by the Piazza di Spagna.
Sure it's delish, very appealing.