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> Searching for a means by which the vaccine might meaningfully damage your adaptive immune system is ill-advised. Frankly, we've got terrifying amounts of information about the deleterious effects of catching and surviving serious COVID, and administration of a vaccine tends to uncontroversially downgrade the seriousness of the COVID infection that you will almost assuredly get eventually. Thus, even if the vaccine harms you in some way, COVID itself will do worse.

Explicitly saying nobody should look into a potential negative side effect of vaccines because they might actually find something is down right scary. Much scarier than any fears of “misinformation”. This kind of thinking is why there is mistrust.

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Vax injuries/deaths are happening, and these lives are being swept under the rug - or dismissed as sacrifices to the cause. COVID will most definitely not be worse than the vaccine for everyone.

I especially want to understand the effects on developing immune systems. There are obvious no long term studies and kids are rarely seriously sick from the virus itself.

>Explicitly saying nobody should look into a potential negative side effect of vaccines because they might actually find something is down right scary.

You didn't read the article. Or what I wrote about it. The vaccine can't do any worse than the virus, and this study, that does look into a potential negative side effect, found that the virus does indeed do worse!

Scaremongering while putting words into someone else's mouth is why there is mistrust.

> You didn't read the article. Or what I wrote about it.

I literally quoted your words. Are you suggesting I randomly selected text and copy/pasted it without reading it?

> The vaccine can't do any worse than the virus, and this study, that does look into a potential negative side effect, found that the virus does indeed do worse!

Nothing in what I said implied that the virus could not be and is not worse. It's a more general point that suggesting an angle of research not be attempted because the result might be unflattering regarding vaccines is ill advised.

If an individual is not at risk for serious complications from COVID (e.g. healthy, young, and fit) then it's not irrational to consider the potential side effects of a vaccine v.s. just the risk of the disease itself. Even the comparison to the same types of side effects of an actual infection is not a fair one as that assumes the individual is guaranteed to get sick. Not everyone lives in a city and travels in a sardine can on rails to go to work every morning so the number of human contacts and potential infection points is not uniform.

> Scaremongering while putting words into someone else's mouth is why there is mistrust.

Claiming that quoting someone's own words is "putting words in someone else's mouth" is some fantastic double-think.

The top 5 states for COVID infection per-capita (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/corona...):

North Dakota

Tennessee

Alaska

Wyoming

South Dakota

I don’t believe any of these states even have a single “sardine can on rails” used by daily commuters.

The idea that you are less likely to be infected in rural Wyoming because you commute by car is pure fiction based on the data. Very few people in the United States are able to avoid grocery stores, pharmacies, or restaurants for more than a week or two.

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