Not in terms of quality or features (many have had significant improvements obviously) but in terms of adoption and getting back to the spot of "this is one of the go-to languages to do x".
Not in terms of quality or features (many have had significant improvements obviously) but in terms of adoption and getting back to the spot of "this is one of the go-to languages to do x".
Back in the RoR days, python had a very second class status in the web community. There were some famous web 2.0 companies that are using django. All the limelight was on Rails.
These days, python is probably the second most popular langauge for after JavaScript in number of repos and maybe the go-to language for first time Devs.
(Thanks to Zed Shaw)
And there are significantly more people doing web app dev with Python now than with Ruby
Django 1.2 was the killer app that made it so much easier to sell to teams. But by then, I think RoR was more fashionable.
While I was using Rails for web dev, I was using python for Gtk apps.. Ubuntu had a visual Gtk app creator. I forgot what it was called. It generated python code by default. That whole Linux app ecosystem was python for a while. Then there was a brief period of Vala being used for this. Not sure what they use these days
I’m not interested in getting back to the overhyped level of popularity. That kept me away from Ruby on Rails for a while. But getting to a “mature” point where we can admin, no we are not dying and yes we are one of the better solutions for web development, would be nice. Also the job market adjust to it would be nice in that it gets used to having people switch to Ruby from other languages again.
The next hype bubble that hits the Ruby community is probably going to be something not related to web development. Look at Python and Machine Learning.
We (web dev, UI dev, game dev) need simple, fast stuff, something Go like but better. Maybe Swift? (haven't used Swift). Maybe V will deliver in the end.
Swift is really slow for web stuff.
> We (web dev, UI dev, game dev) need simple, fast stuff, something Go like but better.
Do you think "we" need something faster than Go for web stuff? Go is already fast enough for most use cases.
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I don't. I don't think anyone else should either. TIOBE counts number of hits returned by a weighted selection of search engines when you search for "<language> programming" - it's a useless metric.