Edward Snowden on corporate media hiring surveillance state operatives and liars

Karate Kid had the Cobra Cai, I think it was called, the rival school. I didn't see it, but I believe they were bullies. Maybe you're right about that one, although I think Daniel-san triumphs against a bully, there might have been several, or the bully had little supporters. It's a coming of age movie, though. It's also a sports movie, they do Karate-Do, which is for decorative, spirital, and sport purposes, not Karate-Jutsu, the military or let's call it "action".

Robocop, there's that company that makes the robot that Robocop has to fight in the end, there's a lot of people working in that company and together they built an automatic murder machine, which they then set loose. And IIRC they're doing a housing development and have ties to the criminal activity in the city Robocop tries to clean up. And like that evil robot had missiles coming out of its back I think, the special effects were glitchy, which made it look like an even greater monstrosity. Companies are groups of persons so absolutely can be guilty of conspiracy if the facts warrant it, incorporation documents don't give permission to traffic heroin. So it happens to fronts for drug dealing and it almost happened to Abbott Laboratories, also basically for drug dealing, only with a drug patients hated instead of craving.

Rocky does not involve a conspiracy, except of course the conspiracy that Rocky works for, the mob, as a debt collector. Which is the reason behind his conflict with Mickey, while Rocky says "it's a living" Mickey replies "it's a waste of life!" But I think I can hand you this one. One catch: this is a sports movie, not an action movie.

I haven't seen the others.

[1] gang is a well-marketed and very glamourous word for conspiracy, which is the term courts use when there's the formal elements of a conspiracy: meeting of the minds, two or more participants in a crime acting in coordination, there's a third one [EDIT: secrecy, and illegality or bad faith are others] but that's the gist of it, it just means criminal teamwork. Some things you do alone, some things with others, same goes for crime...at any rate, don't accuse someone of being a conspiracy theorist to a judge. Judges deal with conspiracies continually, sometimes multiple different ones per day, and there absolutely are people trying to play that judge by "covering" for each other. You will curry zero favor with that judge by putting the word "conspiracy" in your opponents mouth and then claim he must be delusional. That always works on talk TV, but not in court. Judges simply don't have the luxury of being able to pretend criminals never cooperate, like none of them had a single friend.

A conspiracy theory dynamic was shoehorned into the Minority Report movie (the short story is very different).

Hydra stuff in recent MCU comes to mind.

Predator is an interesting inversion in that, while there is a bit of CIA backstabbing, the real conspiracy relevant to the conjecture above is actually "our heroes", who are eliminated by the single antagonist until the climactic fight. I guess that's kind of a horror thing, though?

- The Island

- The Truman Show

- Capricorn One

- Alternative 3

- The Parallax View

- The Anderson Tapes

- THX 1138

edit: depending on how you look at it

- Contact

lol

> Everyone should treat what the CIA, NSA and FBI say with extreme scepticism, regardless of your politics.

Once again, the fact you make the presumption that any HN user doesn't already do this to the extreme is hilarious.

lol @ the rest of your rambling in general

Go touch grass and please get a credible education, it will help you in life.

Who are you trying to convince?

Bill Browder talks about what happened to him when he pissed off the most powerful people in Russia. I don't admire the guy, basically he figured out every story he could get into the WSJ or Nytimes made them $41M in preventing stock shenanigans like massive dilution so that his shares actually could appreciate from the rapidly growing Russia economy, so that was his whole angle, shaming those guys in the paper. It's not clear it was truth, or whether it was slander, there was shady business going on, but he's no saint. When a news article is worth $41 million, like how much is that per word, and are you going to get a PR person to review the words, check if you can't get the article to be worth $42M in stock? Are you sure it's exactly $41M? Can't you just give it a little nuance, use a thesaurus maybe? Besides, damningly, he gave up his US citizenship to avoid paying taxes (like he obviously doesn't say that because tax lawyers tell you if you say that you are forbidden from ever setting foot in America for life), and that backfired because that means you are forfeiting America's protection and help because you didn't want to contribute back into the system. And he now can't make political contributions as a citizen, which I'm getting to.

He got kicked out of Russia, which makes perfect sense, like this guy thinks he milk American institutions, totally imperialistically meaning imposing American values on Russian companies, for no other reason but to make billions of dollars, and hoard that wealth with cunning tax evasion (guys like this absolutely don't pay taxes for ten years after you stop being a citizen, though that's the law, and to my understanding they literally value the money they pay in taxes 0%, or even negative). And USA actually is fine with you going to some banana republic and lording it over them, I mean it's perverse, but it's happened many many times in US history. And that's precisely why you still have to pay taxes if you're overseas if you're American, though in practice you only pay if you are upper class in a foreign country, which is by design. Or what, you expect the embassies to evacuate you after you caused a revolution, or you want American marines to force a country to redo an election you didn't like, that costs money that has to come from taxes, you don't want to pay anything for that?

And that guy is an activist now, he got some other citizenships, he lobbied all kinds of governments to punish a few of Putin's, like, he calls them henchmen or something, maybe they are, I don't know, it's always the same 7 guys and nobody else so they can't get bank accounts, they're the ones who seem to have beaten his lawyer to death. And he says, he's gotten 7 red notices from Interpol from Russia, it's a huge problem if you get just one.

It's realistic for him to expect to be assassinated, he says in his book he could have 1000 bodyguards and it wouldn't matter, Putin could get him anyway, and he has other strategies to protect himself. And several assassinations have been attributed to Russia in the last ten years, in London a few times, I think in London repeatedly, the nerve gas some years ago was attributed to them, some polonium in someone's tea, it's a realistic outcome if you're enough of a thorn in a powerful someone's side.

So one viable strategy is, piss people off less.

Related, I also don’t understand why, if the US was able to pressure other countries into withdraw their commitments, they wouldn’t just wait until Snowden was in one of those countries so they could pressure for extradition.