10. Poor training
9. The job is not what they thought it would be
8. Industry always changing
7. Bored with job, need a change
6. Junk equipment
5. Time off
4. Dishonesty
3. Unpaid waiting time
2. Pay
1. Lack of respect
10. Poor training
9. The job is not what they thought it would be
8. Industry always changing
7. Bored with job, need a change
6. Junk equipment
5. Time off
4. Dishonesty
3. Unpaid waiting time
2. Pay
1. Lack of respect
In manufacturing, of course, but also behind the wheel.
Think about how eg Anti-lock braking systems replaced some advanced manual braking techniques. ABS is so common now, that we hardly think about it any more. And we definitely don't view it as AI.
Slightly more involved: knowing your way around used to be a big part of cab driving or trucking. The advent of GPS and mapping software has made that skill largely obsolete.
You can think of more example, like cruise control or automatic lane keeping, and systems that brake automatically to avoid a crash.
None of these systems are AI proper, and they don't eliminate the need for a human driver (yet). What they do is to _deskill_ the job of driving.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deskilling for more about that.
I've had some fun with the Euro & American Truck Simulator games, which if a laid back style of zoning out style gaming is your thing I can totally recommend. Check it out on Steam, if only to be amazed that people would actually want to play this. I have hundreds of hours in this game and I wonder myself :-).
So, not a trucker but I can sort of appreciate what truckers need to deal with. Basically, the game comes with some automation to make the hard parts easier for beginners. But of course with AI, that's exactly what might become easier in the real world as well. What's left is just enjoying some trucker music and staring out of the window.
What's hard with trucks:
- Mastering all the mechanical and pneumatic systems and preventing damaging the truck by e.g. over torquing, using the wrong gears, and just generally knowing what to use for what situation. A lot of this becomes a lot simpler with electrical engines (no gears, excellent torque) which are much simpler to operate. Simpler here of course also means that autonomous operation becomes much easier if the vehicle is simple to operate.
- Backing up a truck + trailer in a tight space. Half the problem here is simply lack of visibility and situational awareness; which you can partially solve with cameras and mirrors. And this probably is a frequently causing damage to trucks. More a question of when than if it happens. Cars with park assist already exist. So, AI can definitely help out here as well.
- Making turns and navigating narrow roads. This is just largely learned on the job but also something you could assist quite easily.
- Dealing with dangerous / special cargo loads. This requires certifications and knowledge about e.g. regulations, procedures, etc. Unlikely to completely go away with autonomous driving. But still, the driving part might probably done more safely by AI long term.
And it doesn't even have to be 'full AI' when we do get more automation. Something like Comma's level 2 lane- and distance-keeping system would probably do a lot for fatigue on long-haul routes, even if a human still needs to be behind the wheel.
Also, it's a poor example of deskilling, because ABS was designed to do something humans cannot do.
ABS is designed to stop or reduce incidents of uneven-braking-surface induced yaw. Ie, left tire has grip, right tire has less / no grip, which will induce counter-clockwise yaw.
ABS is able to stop a car faster than any human possibly could in cases where there's uneven traction because it allows any wheel with grip to keep braking. Modern ABS systems can outbrake a human; older systems were slow and could be out-braked by a driver trained in threshold braking performing a planned stop.
Compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadence_braking
Wikipedia> Anti-lock braking system performs these operations automatically many times per second in rapid succession. A human driver can perform one lock-release cycle per second with practice.
Wikipedia> While cadence braking is effective on most surfaces, it is less effective at slowing the vehicle than keeping the tires continually at the optimum braking point which is called threshold braking. The latter is an expert driving technique that is even more difficult to learn than cadence braking, and again has been largely superseded by ABS.
> I'm not sure why you're comparing an very logic driven system like ABS to self-driving ("AI"). ABS follows pretty simple logic, comparing wheel sensors (and in more modern cars, additionally: accelerometers and if the vehicle has stability control, a yaw rate sensor aka gyro.) There's little "fuzzy" or subjective evaluations in ABS, there's no need to "train" it, and so on.
See the larger point I was making about deskilling. ABS was indeed never seen as something that would require much intelligence. Route planning however was.
But thanks to the AI effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect), as soon as we understand and implement something, it's no longer seen as AI.
That's just a side-show. My main point was really about deskilling through technology, even without or before AI. So a bit of a tangent to the comment I was replying to.
I saw your "</s>" btw
The biggest problem was that whether the bid showed who was responsible for loading/unloading or not, whenever the truck pulled up the shipper was like, "Oh, I thought you knew that you had to arrange the loading/unloading." Some of the items were the size of a house, commercial printing presses, etc.
The UK just added that 11th bullet point and is now suffering the costs of Brexit.
Given similar complains and conditions a few years ago, and that Germany, France etc have since made improvements, but the UK has only added border controls and added barriers to working, it's no surprise that EU drivers left the UK.
But then Spain didn't tell drivers from all over Europe that they are undesirable and unwanted, create a "hostile environment" for them and their families, and then dissolve our trading relationship with our most important partners.
Drivers also don't enjoy gambling with uncertain paperwork, peeing in bottles and crapping next to hedgerows as they wait for endless border queues, so why would they choose those routes when instead they can drive somewhere else where they're not hated, resented and officially unwelcome?
Neither person you replied to in this discussion mentioned Brexit in recent comments on other discussions.
Except it was a response to a post that already mentioned Brexit; and "elbowing in brexit" to imply brexit has been elbowed in (i.e. is erroneously mentioned) is a bit different.