Covid: Double vaccinated can still spread virus at home
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Anyone who gets infected is a playground for the virus to mutate.
So, what exactly is your theory? That vaccines are water? That they are not? Is it a single theory, or you have multiple hypotheses? Who is trying to fool whom? Who are the "masters", and what "illusion" are they trying to keep?
I'm not sarcastic at all. Please articulate your thoughts, and I'll argue with you with complete honesty.
Who does a lockdown benefit? People going to work creates revenue for the government, people going to shops creates revenue for the government, people going travelling creates revenue for the government. If people aren't paid or aren't paying for goods/services, they aren't paying taxes, which isn't good for the government. In fact while people are at home (at least in Australia), the government has been paying living allowances, which certainly doesn't benefit the government. No one benefits from people staying at home, other than the people who don't get ill.
from what I see, politicans in most of the countries are just enjoying their power trip over people (hopefully naively) thinking they are doing the good thing (after all even many/most Nazis really believed in inferiority of Slavs/Jews and thought they are doing the good thing getting world rid of them), in worse case they are hostages of various lobby groups, especially pharma lobby trying to scare people so they can drive demand up and sell more vaccines and drugs and get finance for various research, all of this would not be possible without fight affecting you daily, if COVID would be just another flu as it should be taken (risk groups get vaxxed for their own personal benefits and don't bother anyone else pretending your vaccination is saving anyone)
sadly there is significant part of population still buying it, that they are actually doing the good thing, so since they see they still have significant support for doing it, they won't stop and they will enjoy their power trip and stripping our freedoms and basic rights, that's how totalitarian regimes started everywhere - doing the good thing
I guess I'm part of that significant fraction of the population buying it. So let me explain what I'm buying.
I'm buying the idea that freedom is not absolute. "One's freedom to swing his fist ends at the tip of someone else's nose" and all that. One's freedom to be drunk ends the moment they step into a driver's seat. Society has to negotiate curtailments of freedom all the time.
In many states, kids can't go to public schools if they don't show their vaccination records [1]. This was long before Covid. When the Covid shot will be fully approved for kids, I'm sure it will be added to the list of mandatory shots, which is already quite long (for example, in my state, immunization is required for 10 diseases [2]). I don't personally find anything worrisome about adding Covid to the list.
Now, you could say, you're not fighting for this particular thing, but rather for the idea of freedom in general. I understand that, and commend it. Governments try to expand their reach all the time, but fortunately, we live in a society with multiple checks and balances, and for a few hundred years we've managed to avoid tyranny. But we need to keep being vigilant, and deny the Government powers that is should not have.
But, as you said, in the end the Government is nothing. It's "we the people". On the topic of Covid, "we the people" are divided, but a majority welcome the vaccination, and are eager to get to the point of herd immunity, so we can leave the disease behind. On this topic, the Government does represent the will of a majority of the people. When you elect to fight the Government on this one, you are fighting a large number of fellow citizens. And it's fine, it's your prerogative, in the end the Constitution is there to prevent both the tyranny of a king, but also the tyranny by majority. The fact that a majority of the population is pro-vax does not automatically mean it's a just cause. But it does mean that you should give it due consideration, and not assume automatically that we are all just fools who buy all the lies sold to us by some maleficent, shadowy, invisible actors.
[1] https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinations.htm...
[2] https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/schools/sc...
and just for the record here in Czechia it's pretty sane approach, they can insist on vaccination to visit optional education, but there is no such requirement to attend mandatory education. vaccination is mandatory by law under fines which are not really enforced since you can refuse vaccination for religious or other reasons and state clearly said education is above vaccination mandate, at least in past before everyone went crazy with this disease of old/obese people
I don't think majority welcomes vaccination, it's welcomed by people at risk (old/obese) who are protected by it, but the significant majority of vaxxed got vaxxed only to avoid various imposed restrictions and gov blackmailing them into this "voluntary" vaccination, not exactly how is it voluntary if you deny me basic rights like going to restaurants or in Italy going to work, that's not voluntary by my standards, that's like robbing someone with gun and saying he voluntary gave me money, after all I didn't say I will kill him, just showed him gun
and herd immunity against COVID/flu, you seriously believe it? you should read more studies, there is no such thing as herd immunity against these viruses, at least not with these inefficient vaccines which don't protect you against infection and transmission at all
We all have differences in our immune systems. Could be you have one that does a good job at fighting off covid.
Could be you got it but barely felt it or didn't notice it at all but you built an immunity to it just the same.
Could be you've not been exposed to enough of the virus to get infected and you will get it.
Could be none of the above.
One thing is for sure, those who've been vaxxed are less likely to get it for now. A variant could come up that changes that but we won't know until it does.
I am not vaxxed, had COVID in 2 weeks this October, 2 weeks of high fever with max. 2 short 1 day breaks, total fatigue, bad headaches, loss of smell, partial loss of taste
after 2 weeks it was like you would turn the switch off and I was basically healthy, left with sporadic weak coughing and no smell, though after 3 weeks smell returned and farts never smelled as good as before
would I get vaxxed after this experience? not really, I am healthy person, it was inconvenient, luckily I didnt have much work during that period and I work from home. but if they provided me with safe vaccine proven by decades of experience (inactivated virus) instead of these experimental vaccines first time in history used year (mRNA) or two (viral vector, ebola, 2019) ago I would probably take it even without restrictions and I'd recommend it to other healthy ppl, since I would consider it safe technology which works basically same as infection, unlike mRNA/viral vector pushed for reasons unknown to me, I am willing to pay extra for safe vaccine and they can keep these cheaper (easier to produce en masse) mRNA/VV vaccines for poor people who don't care about their health
vaccines work. do they work against infection? hardly, very inefficient. do they work against hospitalization? already better. do they work against death? pretty good, sure nowhere close to promised 90+ percents but from recent numbers at least in Czechia the efficacy against death (for risk groups) is ~75%, that's not bad if you are at risk of death
if you are risk group - get vaxxed, it surely has benefits against hospitalization and death, not much against infection.
if you are not risk group then it should be up to you without being forced by unscientific political restrictions, since vaccine will hardly change anything for you, at best will make your COVID more pleasant experience, if we had available safe inactivated virus vaccines I would say sure go for it, but since we have only mRNA/VV vaccines never used in history and nobody will guarantee safety of the technology in next 10 years, then their benefit for non-risk groups is questionable