Imagine comparing a simple health measure to the Stasi. Some folks on here take individualism to pathological levels.
They already can't enter supermarkets or access any "non-essential" services.
"simple health measure", you literally need that + a form of ID to leave the home. And I cannot support that.
Relax. Don't pretend this is something new or the end of the world. This is how civilization works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible restrictions already and this is another one that makes sense.
Would be lovely if you were put in a position where it's something you don't want to (or can't) do, or your own government takes away your entire livelihood. But it would be fine, because that's how civilisation works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible.
I would have a sweet, sweet "I told you so" moment, but I would still stand up for your rights.
Stop pretending this is some kind of principled stand, it's just people wanting to be inconsiderate assholes and other people not wanting them to be.
It is a principled stand. I'm all for vaccination and I'm vaccinated myself, I don't care who's vaccinated and who's not. Making it illegal to employ unvaccinated people is inexcuseable.
As such, unvaccinated people are a health risk to the vaccinated individual.
We don't allow all sorts of other health risks in the workplace, you can't be a drunk crane operator for example, so this is not some special new thing.
* you can easily get a non-covid passport to leave the country * you need a driver's license to prove skill * it's illegal to enter a country illegally. Working without a visa isn't an issue because you're not allowed there to begin with.
But with covid, we've removed fundamental rights. Driving is not a right. Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights... but not if you're a skeptic.
But about your examples, these things are now illegal but have never been:
* Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport.
* In Romania you're not allowed to go outside without a mask and you're not allowed to go outside at night AT ALL if you're not vaccinated.
Even worse:
* France debated removing voting rights for non vaccinated people.
> This is how civilization works
You know which other people invoked civilization?
Just like you need a vaccine certificate to prove vaccination :)
> Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights
Says who? Who defines those rights?
> these things are now illegal but have never been: [...]
> In Romania you're not allowed to go outside without a mask and you're not allowed to go outside at night AT ALL if you're not vaccinated.
Ceausescu declared a national curfew on December 20 1989.
> Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport
Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave?
Both of these "unprecedented" things have precedent. You're over-exaggerating in your hysteria.
> You know which other people invoked civilization?
Please, enlighten me.
> Says who? Who defines those rights?
UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
> > Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport
> Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave?
Ok, I'm now fairly confident you're just trolling.
Why would you think I'm trolling? I demonstrated both examples you gave were invalid and all you did was try to derail the conversation.
And then 5 days later the Ceausescus were sentenced to death and executed by a firing squad, the same fate that the proponents of covid passports deserve. I suppose that was your point.
I have no problem with the vaccines, I just don’t think it’s a reasonable excuse for anyone to ask my ID.