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But will the display connector fail after 2 years of regular use like with the last MBP?

I have hope that hardware will be improving now that Ive is no longer dictating. They removed the Touch Bar. They brought back ports and connectivity to the laptop. They've left the stupid keyboard behind. It looks like some sanity has been restored. I seems like someone at Apple finally got tired of everyone asking to make the bad man stop.

I really wish this myth would stop.

Ive was not unilaterally responsible for deciding what constitutes a MacBook Pro or frankly any of the products Apple created. And he never dictated anything to anyone other than the Design team he managed.

Major product decisions are always made across many parts of the company e.g. Product Marketing, Design, Hardware Engineering, Operations etc and are signed off by the Senior Leadership Team.

MacBook Pro is a critical product for the company and the idea that one person is simply making all the decisions is just laughable.

You don't want the arrows, don't be the one that leaves and suddenly things get better. Also, don't be the one in all of the marketing videos/on-stage demos/pointed out by the CEO as the one doing all of the designing. Not sure how us plebeian users are to know the difference. That's also part of the pros/cons of being SVP in charge. You're going to catch these arrows because you've signed off on all of these multi-group/people making decisions.

Not sure what videos you're watching but Apple for decades has included people like Phil Schiller and Greg Joswiak in their keynotes.

You should look up what Product Marketing is because out of anyone they are far more responsible for what features go into a product.

He was the one responsible for design. The designs improved after his departure. Maybe a myth, maybe a coincidence, maybe true. You can’t say it’s a myth anymore than somebody else can say it isn’t.

I have worked at Apple so I know for a fact that Ive wasn't running around the company dictating to everyone what every detail of every product should be. That's not how the company works.

And you were talking about product features e.g. TouchBar and ports. Those definitely aren't the sole decisions of the Design team.

What part of “He was responsible for the design” Is unclear?

Hard to say, right? I had three of the previous gen machines without issue.

If there weren't any issues, why did you have three of them?

Not gonna bother for exact count but I think there are like 10 PCs and laptops in my office. And I do not have issues with any.

Are you saying there are 10 identical laptops in your office that all belong to you?

I did not say they were identical. And 10 or something close to it is a total number of computers in my office.

I had two 2016 15” machines (personal and work), and upgraded the personal machine to a 2019 16” for the better keyboard. I actually just got my work machine upgraded to a 2019 16” as well. Not a single issue with any of them. 14” Pro on the way now… :)

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