Facebook kept its own oversight board in the dark on program for VIP users
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>Facebook told the oversight board that the program applied only "to a small number of decisions," which the company subsequently acknowledged was misleading
Indeed. Millions of users is a tiny fraction of Facebook's total user count, so in terms of absolute numbers it is probably a relatively small number of content.
But in terms of reach and influence, I would expect the VIP users to have by far a disproportionately large share. I would also expect them to be the most likely to post content that would end up in front of an oversight board. But of course, they are also the ones most able to raise a stink if Facebook moderates their content...
The number of accounts under the program versus not I think misses the point. Facebook has separate rules that a privileged few get to play by. So privileged in fact, that their self appointed overseers didn't in fact oversee.
And these board members? What a joke. A kangaroo board. How embarrassing for those board members.
I'm partly joking. Out of billions of users it's still one in thousands.
Like, Doug The Pug might get reported a thousand times per post for animal abuse.
FB's "oversight boards" are to check a box saying they have oversight boards, nothing more.
I have no insider knowledge here, I'm looking at FB as a black box whose insides can only be deduced by the inputs and outputs, mind.
Millions of accounts - and likely tens of millions of decisions stemming from those accounts - is not a small _number_.
If having human moderation costs too much to scale to everything, do you throw up our arms and say humans will moderate nothing and it's entirely up to bots? Or do you still put some limited resources into human moderation that could check 0.1% of content, then have some algorithm that picks what content the human moderation gets applied to?
If you go that route, you might be very tempted to try to design the algorithm for picking which 0.1% of content goes to the humans to try to pick "important" content. Because you want to apply your limited human moderation resources to content that's "important" to get right or will be "impactful" for large numbers of people or the trajectory of an entire society.
I understand why this angers people. Facebook might see it in terms of deploying limited moderation resources in the most effective way. But suppose you're an "ordinary" person who gets posts deleted, accounts locked, etc. by bots for no discernable reason with no appeal. As an "ordinary" person, learning "important" people have a different, more forgiving justice system where actual humans make decisions is going to make you pretty angry.
I'm not sure it's malicious intent on Facebook's part.
We know nothing about who chooses the members of the VIP club, there were cases of harassment and incitement to violence that went unchecked, and they purposely hid knowledge of the program for their own oversight board - even though they appointed the board themselves.
That's all quite, quite bad, to say nothing of the base inequality at he heart of it. They tried to hand-wave that away with this absurd line, saying the program was to:
> "create an additional step so we can accurately enforce policies on content that could require more understanding"
- dude, that's just saying that their chosen VIPs deserve more understanding, for some reason; in response to serious charges that the 'VIP's were inciting violence and harassing others.
The worry most have is the oversite board was not aware of the program which means the oversite board may miss other things.
You seem to be against VIP programs in general. Where do you draw the line? Bulk pricing creates inequality by favoring those who can afford to buy many products at once. Are you against this?
I think the 'secret' part, where Facebook knew fully well that even their own oversight board stacked with their own appointees wouldn't tolerate such a thing - never mind 3 billion other users - quite clearly negates deceptive comparisons to "bulk pricing", and the like.
Interesting number. Wonder if that gives us a rough idea of the global ratio of celebrities to normal people?
8 billion people on the planet vs. 5.8 million celebs means there are on average ~ 1500 normal people for every celebrity?
Seems kinda low... or that there are way too many users Facebook regards as "high profile".
The ratio gets even more suspect when you remember Facebook "only" has 3 billion monthly users (src https://backlinko.com/facebook-users) ... 517 normal people for every celeb
It's just more of Facebook's desperate attempt to stay relevant and appease the most toxic "influencers" to keep their revenue going up and justify their absurd market valuation.
I don't think this xcheck system is designed to appease the most toxic influencers unless you consider people like Cristiano Ronaldo or Ariana Grande toxic.
So yeah, it's an absurd market valuation based on speculation of growth.
Earnings is actually earnings per share.
>In total, the Board selected 21 cases to review and ultimately proceeded with 17 of these. By the end of June, the Board had decided 11 cases – overturning Facebook’s decision eight times and upholding it three times.
>On average it took 74 days to decide and implement these cases.
Wow.
Useful oversight has to come from external sources, particular by those most affected by your actions. Doesn't have to be entirely cut throat but god how often do schools let kids grade their own homework?
Big companies only make things like these so they can avoid external oversight. Then the Senators they buy off can say "Oh we'll step in when needed but it looks like they're trying."
Edit: downvotes from shills.
Disney would be a more likely, though still unlikely, lightning rod for apparently having sold their streaming service as a "loss leader" and having purchased lots and lots of copyrights and trademarks which they subsequently made exclusive, directly causing the termination of Netflix programs in some cases.
He stepped down as CEO in 2000, but remained as Chairman for years after.
Now this dude gets an easier time harassing people, breaking Facebook's rules and being a jackass on their website, just because of his damn dog. This is creepy.
However, I'm most amazed and impressed how facebook has created a team -- likely compensated in FB equity -- and then convinced the world that the team is an "oversight board".
The reasons fb gets dunked on (among others) is because people in comment sections are too lazy to spend 10 seconds to Google a bit of research:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-facebooks-oversight...
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Their board knew, and approved.