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I don't get all the fuss. Apps don't have to make changes to accommodate it because the system will do that for them, unless they want to go out of their way to use the extra (!) space.

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I don't get it either. The notch essentially covers up the middle of the menu bar and is a non-issue when full-screening. Apple essentially encroached the screen into the camera's territory and used the extra few pixels for the menu bar with the notch covering the middle of the menu bar which is typically empty and wasted space.

There's zero impact on full screen apps and non-fullscreen apps get to claim the space formerly used by the menu bar.

> There's zero impact on full screen apps

How so? Are they going to push full screen apps up to the bottom of the notch? If not, how are you sure it won’t have any impact on so many different apps?

The menubar disappears when you’re in a full screen app, so that won’t help.

I’ve used full screen only for essentially every app daily for the past 10 years on Mac, curious to see how this works out.

By default the system blacks-out the segments next to the bar in full-screen mode. If devs opt in, they can instead choose to use the extra space in full-screen mode. So there's literally no downside.

The screen is apparently a 16:10 display, plus approximately 70 (not sure about the number) pixels on top: thusly, when an app goes fullscreen, the OS just blacks out those top pixels and puts the app in the 16:10 area (unless it uses the new API and requests access to these pixels)

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