Adult hood in America is coming to terms with the fact that I'll never live to see this cleaned up version of the USA everyone is dreaming about so instead I'm scooping my single family home and getting the hell out of dodge.
Adult hood in America is coming to terms with the fact that I'll never live to see this cleaned up version of the USA everyone is dreaming about so instead I'm scooping my single family home and getting the hell out of dodge.
Do not get me wrong here, I do think the many police boxes and the fact that you can greet and recognise the face of your local officers on your way home after work at night helps to form a sense of community. But my suspicion is that the truth lies more in the fact that Japan has a culture where people “police” themselves to an almost ridiculous degree in terms of all forms of behaviour. There are of course massive downsides to this kind of social pressure (especially on the level of individuals), but that would be a subject deserving an article in its own right.
In another comment you wrote: “I don't even want to know my neighbors exist”. Since Japan is a more collectivist society, you will be acutely aware that your neighbours exist at all times. Heck, not only your neighbours, but every individual around you at work, in public, etc. and constantly be reminded by your fellow Japanese that you better “behave” and conform according to the perceived norms or get glared at disapprovingly or – worse – even ostracised. At least to my eyes, this is where you find the source of the societal phenomena you seek – not the police or another central authority.
One thing that struck me walking around Osaka was a 7-11 that had parking like an American style one would with parking in front.
Driving into Kagoshima (bullet train was out due to landslide so we drove down) you're gonna see basically single family style dwellings all the way down hill into the city where it gets instantly dense but for only about 15 city blocks. Was dead AF at night. In a city like that you can own a car no problem and commute in. And that's how most Japanese live. Don't get it twisted. Japanese folks enjoy privacy as much as anyone else. Tokyo is the exception, not the rule. And even in Tokyo they will go to retreats out in the mountains regularly.
Tokyo is a great model for proper zoning in high density urban areas to prevent high costs but it's not how you live everywhere
I usually only monitor posts for a few hours after I make them, but before I “move on”, you wrote: “And that's how most Japanese live. Don't get it twisted”. That is not a particularly friendly way to respond to a person, especially as I can not see how I anywhere have even hinted towards a suggestion that all Japanese live “on top” of each other. Perhaps you thought my point about “knowing your neighbours” was about privacy? I can assure you that it was not the case (which hopefully becomes apparent if you reread it in that light) and that what I wrote about Japanese society (in my experience) is equally applicable to the large cities and out “in the country”. If you want to dig further into this on your own with me “gone”, there is plenty of reading about “wa” which is pretty much what I describe. Although I fully admit that seeing the implications and complexity of the concept took me many years.
Technically, according to what I've read, they did do something. They recorded it.
Are you sure? I’ve never had that impression across years of transit, bus and rail, in Pittsburgh and Boston.
I think the biggest barrier is a chicken and egg problem: it’s hard to motivate transit expansion without dense housing and it’s hard to motivate denser housing except along existing transit corridors
The whole system would need to be rebuilt for me to even consider going back to that.
Most riders before covid were office commuters. Now with remote work what reason is there for it to be there? Oh right for the guy asking for hand outs to ride it all the way up and down the line all day while no one does anything about it.
Trust me it's not an issue of denser housing. I do not want denser housing. I don't even want to know my neighbors exist. Seriously.
I lived in a dense city for a long time. It sucked.
Admittedly, I'm one of those office workers, so I haven't used transit much since the pandemic began, but I'll be back to using it daily early next year or so (subject to change, as always...)
It's always going to depend on your line and your time of day for how pleasant transit is, but as a general rule the more families use a transit line, the nicer it is. When I lived in Brookline, MA and took the Green Line trolley, it was extremely pleasant, even during non-work hours (when you would see parents with small children and such on your ride). However, the line goes through an upper middle class semi-dense[0] suburban neighborhood, so of course it was nice.
The same logic applies to Tokyo. The entire city is dense and almost every person takes transit sometimes. Even if there are unpleasant people (I'm sure there are), the overwhelming number of ordinary families, office workers, and so on, taking transit makes the less savory riders nearly invisible, at least to tourists.
This is why I say it's a chicken and egg problem: you won't ever have nice transit unless you have a system where middle class people want to ride transit, and you won't have that system unless it's more convenient than driving the car, and you won't have THAT system unless housing is dense.
> I do not want denser housing.
That's perfectly fair, and I agree that many people feel this way. Personally, I want to live in a city and I like having a lot of neighbors. When I walked through Japanese suburbs (where houses fill up an entire tiny lot with almost no space between them), it felt very at-home to me. But that's personal preference.
> Do you realize how miserable subway stations in east coast cities can get when the AC is broken? If they even have AC?
Yes of course, one of the advantages of taking a car is that you have your own personal climate controlled box with your music and nobody else's noises or smells. I don't dispute this, but that's not really a USA-centric problem (aside from the occasional broken AC in summer or broken heating in winter). Having your own personal climate box will always be more pleasant.
[0] My definition: semi-dense because it felt urban near the main street/transit but in a few pockets of Brookline, you could be a 10 minute walk from transit but surrounded by expensive single family homes on large lots.