California ports among world’s least efficient, ranking shows
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https://mobile.twitter.com/typesfast/status/1450904056365404...
Seems there's a bottleneck because trucks aren't picking up containers from the port. They're running out of room in the yard to unload the container ships.
The tweet explicitly says that the Port is not slowing anything down and that they want more shifts.
Rail deliveries are on schedule.
Would love to know more about that. Appointments are full but no one is showing up for them? Companies just can't get drivers?
1. California passed a law that all trucks older than 10 years old had to have expensive modifications (I believe for pollution control). Well, the average age of trucks is 14 years. Surprisingly (not), trucks became in short supply in California.
2. They passed this law that Uber drivers were employees, not contractors. Surprisingly (until you think about it), this same law hit owner-operators of trucks. That confuses the legalities of hiring owner-operators, which is a fair number of trucks.
From what I heard, for both of these reasons, trucks and drivers are less available than they used to be in California.
Are you talking about AB 5? Because if so, it's nowhere near that simple.
"The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, after hearing the case, issued a preliminary injunction blocking the state from enforcing AB5 .....The court noted that carriers likely would have to reclassify all independent-contractor drivers as employees for all purposes to comply with the California labor law.... California officials and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters appealed the ruling to the 9th Circuit. The appeals court reversed the district court's order...."
I'm not a lawyer, but to a layman it looks like a legal fustercluck.
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/19/facebook-p...
> industry experts said that some owner-operators sought work elsewhere. Some fleets, too, chose to stop doing business with owner-operators in California.
where "stop doing business" is a link to an article about people doing just that.
And the "exemption" you mention is a temporary injunction that may be lifted at any time, which is not conducive to a stable business relationship.
https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forc...
All the immigrants that were abused for the job are gone due to covid.
Lets pretend we don't have a deep dark issue with port trucking
- Shipping companies realize that they can make more money by sailing empty back to pick stuff up in China, rather than wait to load up with goods leaving American ports
- American warehouses get unusually full with stuff that can no longer get onto an out-going ship
- Firms who have goods arriving at the port don't have warehouse space to receive them (or trucks to move them), so they linger in the yards at the port
- Shipping companies are then slowed down waiting at the ports
... and perhaps there's also a whiff of tragedy of the commons between shipping companies, in that even if they realize that this is the impact of leaving goods piled up unable to leave the US, any one firm doesn't benefit from choosing to wait to load up before sailing back?
Flexport is a great place to work and this makes me proud to work here.
“We went to the Port to ask the workers why there was a backlog and learned it’s other people that are the problem.”
Great PR by Flexport though and smart to placate the Union. No way you can get anything done without greasing the right skids.
1000+ likes! I need to hire this guy to explain to my boss why our prod deployment failed!
The reason they said was due to automation and "forward looking technologies", and said that American ports were riddled with unions and refusals to automate. It seems like this has been a long time coming.
Here's the kicker, they were sued for unlawful labor practices.
The entire slowdown was organized over two jobs. That they wanted taken away from the electrician's union.
There are other such stories you can find about dealing with the ILWU. They regularly attack other workers and unions. They even pulled out of the AFL-CIO so they could be free to beef over turf with its' members.
Don't buy into any of their media BS - they are not a union, they are a racket.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-11-29/longshore-...
Unions came about to bring about workers rights in the industrial revolution to correct terrible working conditions. This is something that needed to happen.
Fast forward to the 1970s and the problems weren't anywhere near as severe. But power not used is power lost. If your members begin to view you as unnecessary, it's an existential threat to not only the union but those who had built their careers (political and otherwise) on the backs of that. So what happens? Any remote sleight is blown out of proportion to create controversy and fan the flames of fear among members.
In the US this dovetailed into the Reagan years. Americans had started to view unions as unnecessary and corrupt and union membership and power waned.
It also didn't help that there have been many ties between unions and organized crime.
Your story about the Portland ports comes as no surprise to me. There are countless stories like this and the "go to" defense used in making a mountain out of a mole hill is the slippery slope fallacy ("well if this electrician can be fired for coming to work drunk and killing two people then you'll be next").
It should come as no surprise that worker wages in real terms stagnated from 1980 until now.
What I hope is that the pandemic is a catalyst for this pendulum to start swinging back. I think we've had enough of Reagonomics (trickle-down economics anyone?).
It really comes down to leadership. The ILWU had great leadership that was able to manage relationships better. It's difficult to find that kind of leadership today, especially because people are so quick to cry "corruption" when a leader does anything except be a zealous, loud, and inflexible advocate for their group. (And when they inevitably fail, that's "corruption", too.) Compromise is a dirty word, and no one can maintain the necessary reputational capital amidst relentless character assassinations on social media.
The core leverage of a union is a mafia-style "wouldn't it be a shame if your business burned down?". How are you drawing the line between union and racket? Is there something more nuanced than what you find socially acceptable?
Yeah right. The unions in Europe have always been more violent and dangerous than the ones in the US. The French labor unions would like a word with you about being civilized (they're anything but).
And which societies would those be? The forever dictatorships in Eastern Europe? The regressive monarchies all over Western Europe? Look up how many constitutions the French have had, because they can't get anything right. Most of Europe was a backwards, primitive disaster until the last 40-50 years. Mass genocide, tens of millions butchered in wars, millions cast into slavery in North and South America, monarchy, dictatorship, totalitarianism, Communism, Socialism, Colonialism. Oh yes, those glorious enlightened Europeans, we have so much to learn from their ... wisdom. Europe largely are constitutional and democratic infants compared to the US, crawling from behind by more than a century. It'll take a miracle for Europe to not be back to killing itself before another few decades is up. The sole reason they didn't spend the post WW2 era slaughtering each other is thanks to the US occupation of Europe, which prevented war with Russia and largely kept the major powers from being allowed to attack other weaker nations.
In many ways it ended up less civilized than its northern neighbor, which seems to fight rather fewer wars of aggression.
This is like claiming the isle of mann never fought a war while ignorning it's protectorate status with the UK.
For all intents and purposes, Canada is a protectorate of the united states, we just don't call it that to avoid diplomatic incident.
America is extremely stable compared to Europe.
The time between the founding of the eu and now is the longest Europe has ever been without two major powers at war. Europe was basically the middle east version 0.5.
Much of the stability of North America is built on that slavery (and the 100-million or so lives it cost), genocide of the original inhabitants (another mass killing of as many as 100 million), and of course, the protective moat of thousands of miles of ocean east and west.
Europe's own most stable polities are also shielded by water (Britain) and/or terrain (Scandinavia).
That's a pretty strong take, do you have any evidence for said take?
Your world view of american exceptionalism. Let's have a look at that, exceptional robber barony, bullying, conning and cunning, sold by such sweet cheer leeding and really empowering the countless masses into mindless consumerism until the urgent need to numb it down, be it by psycho pills, weed, opiates, whatever. Food stamps, fuck yeah!
Personally I think that big bully needs to be gagged with petrodollars, and having beaten its teeth out so sensibly with a baseball bat, that it shits them out at the lower end. And then smashed its skull to pulp so that it follows the way of the teeth, fashioned into fantastically flavourful fish fodder.
Because any exception needs to be caught, and treated accordingly. Error correction, so to speak. Otherwise crash.
For reasons of transtemporal hygienics true hyperbolic excess is disallowed. Deal with it.
Cordially condoned by the clandestine committee for cognitive corruption.
Further, I’m not sure this xenophobia toward US labor relations has any basis in reality.
"But the International Longshore and Warehouse Union was quick to issue a response following the meeting, saying the proposal threatens U.S. jobs and local economies." i.e. we want to make things worse, so we get more money.
When you read stuff like this, is it any wonder that Amazon and WalMart are so opposed to unions?
Are there any unions that advocate for good working conditions, without also opposing efficiency gains in the name of jobs?
One huge difference is the employee picks the union, it's not a single union per employer.
I have never supported unions and will never in the future. I can understand the point of Unions in a brutal regime, USA has one of the most vibrant economies in the world with a rich job market.
California is digging a hole for itself it doesn’t do something drastic.
It's pretty clear why Amazon and WalMart dislike unions. Unions make things more expensive (and less efficient) for the owners. The converse is that unions can make things better for the employees. There are a lot more people who work at Amazon and WalMart than there are who meaningfully own those companies.
I think there's an ideal balance and unions can be a part of that. On one end, inefficiency kills the company and costs everyone jobs and money. On the other companies are brutally efficient, like Amazon, and most workers live and work in poor conditions. We should try to find something in the middle rather than optimize for efficiency.
It's the job of the union to advocate for workers, not for management. Workers want more pay, job security, benefits, safety, and so on. What employers want is entirely different and often directly opposed to what the workers want. And there is already a strong advocate for the employers interests - the employer. In most employment situation there is no advocate for the workers to begin with.
What you are suggesting is that in the rare cases that workers do have an advocate, that advocate should also be acting for the benefit of the employer. I don't think that adds up.
Demanding higher pay in exchange for nothing is rent-seeking.
If the ILWU goes on a slowdown strike, the port authority cannot simply fire them all and hire replacements. Firstly, that is outright illegal in America and secondly, there is no competition anyway. The ILWU has a monopoly on the supply of longshoremen. If all the grocers were entered into a cartel agreement to not sell milk below a certain price, then you'd have a point. There's no evidence that this is the case.
But all longshoremen are entered into an agreement not to sell labor below a given price. This agreement is their union membership with the ILWU.
Worked on a project a while back for pricing different qualities of milk and the amount of federal programs, guidelines, and laws regulating dairy markets is extremely substantial.
So naturally this should be regulated like a public service.
That said, just as regular public service jobs pay shit it's not surprising that there are regular conflicts due to disagreements about compensation.
But American unions are legendary in the Western world for corruption and pugnaciousness which continues up to the present[1,2], which is unfortunate, and long term hurts workers.
[1] https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/10/15/head-of-californias-l...
[2] https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/11-union-officials-char...
Of course, this is industry/location/company dependent, but I believe that is the reasoning for the distinction.
This is only true in employment situations with little to no scarcity in labor supply. That is not actually the case in most skilled jobs, certainly not at present. In skilled work, the employer has a clear need to keep their employees satisfied otherwise they cannot sustain their labor needs. Labor scarcity by definition creates substantial alignment between the desires of workers and the needs of the business.
Hence the current situation where unions have an image problem.
Nobody likes seeing an abuse of power, whether the abuse is coming from the direction of the employer, or from the employee‘s union.
Game-theoretically, a smart union should refrain from unreasonable demands, because their long-term survival (and that of its members) is imperilled by public opinion turning against them.
And ports cost money because ports want their money. People need money. To live.
If automation is set up with the express purpose of reducing worker leverage (and it often is for infrastructure projects) then it doesnt make sense to clutch pearls if workers then strike.
If a few days of strikes are so expensive that the automation gets called off... well, maybe it wasnt about reducing costs. Maybe it was about power.
Driverless trains are similar. They don't save passengers money.
Gonna have to disagree with you there. If BART was driverless, we could have 2-car trains every 4 minutes instead of a 10-car train every 20 minutes. Staff shortages are main reason for lower transit frequency, especially on weekends.
Vancouver's SkyTrain is a great example of driverless trains enabling higher frequencies.
I found what I think is a more original post related to the list: https://ihsmarkit.com/research-analysis/new-global-container...
Inferring from the description in the link, it seems like the overall ranking is based on a combined metric. They do mention "minutes per container move" as a key metric ranging from Yokohama's 1.1 minutes to Africa's average 3.6 minutes.
From a high-level perspective, and in analogy with computer systems, it makes sense that time efficiency is the most critical metric.
Mean time from docking to last container being outside of port property
Mean cost per TEU
What's the point of naming those other ports? Like "oh we're so bad we're worse than freaking Kenya!". It's ironic.
Chinese ports also exhibit occasional recent issues affecting both cargo and neighbouring districts (headphone wearers, turn down volume):
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=993wlZ6XFSs
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hUtrkfLKyFE (language, first videographer did not survive)
https://yewtube/watch?v=Ikm1CXgOTLo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions
It's been a considerable time since any comparable event in a US port. Galveston (1947) and Port Chicago (1944) come to mind, both military cargos, during wartime.
The point of naming those ports is to put the inefficiency of US ports into context for the lay-reader.
Indeed. I had the pleasure of standing on the bridge [1] of a freighter in Tanga once as cement was loaded. (Tanga is a port roughly halfway between Mombasa and Dar es Salaam.) They didn't have containers or cranes. They loaded the cement by sliding bags down a ramp, covering their mouths with shirts to reduce dust inhalation.
Mombasa and Dar must be more modern than Tanga, as they are on a list of container ports. Still, I would expect them to be far behind California in terms of infrastructure.
[1] edit: actually, quarter deck, maybe? It wasn't the enclosed part. I don't know ship terms.
The main three causes of this shipping kerfuffle are: 1. Environmental regulations on trucking. 2. Anti-independent operator laws in CA. 3. Government subservience to the longshoremen union. 4. Overly-aggressive stay-at-home policies and subsidies from COVID.
The current administration would go in the wrong direction on every one of those causes.
I don't think nationalization is going to solve the problem here.
Let's also not ignore this shitshow: https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forc...
I wouldn't think the Netherlands or Belgians achieve high efficiency by cutting safety
Terminal automation poses big changes — and likely some job losses — in those dockworker ranks.
LBCT, for example, features remotely run electric cranes gliding back and forth and a computer-controlled stacking system. Multiple containers can be handled by the cranes at one time."
https://www.presstelegram.com/2021/08/20/completion-of-long-...
EDIT: Apparently my factual post about saying crane operator jobs can be automated was flagged. Incredible
What happens with that high leverage, low competition environment is you end up with the richest country on earth having huge supply chain bottlenecks and rated as having some of the worst ports in the world.
Corporations do exactly this, so sounds very fair actually.
When companies exploit their market power it's good business yet when workers do the same thing it's not really fair any more?
"Biden’s Build Back Better bill, Section 30102, expressly prohibits the use of funds provided there to be used for automation."[1]
The union is clear it opposes automation:
"TTI would become the fourth automated container terminal in Southern California. Total Terminals International’s (TTI’s) decision this week to automate its 385-acre Pier T terminal in Long Beach sets up a classic struggle between terminal operator employers and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU).
The union opposes the project on the grounds it will eliminate some dockworker jobs, but employers say automation is needed to increase capacity and keep the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles competitive."[3]
And this results in outdated infrastructure and lower productivity:
"Cranes in automated ports operate at least twice as fast as cranes in outdated US ports. Biden’s port czar, John Porcari, let the truth out when he said last week it’s “your grandfather’s infrastructure that we’re dealing with.”[1]
"The International Longshoremen’s Association contract, which extends to 2024, blocks the use of automation technology. Willie Adams, president of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, which represents West Coast workers, says automated cargo handling equipment will not be tolerated."[1]
"In a July 7 letter to California Governor Gavin Newsom, International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) president Willie Adams cited the pandemic and the US-China trade war as reason why terminal automation, mostly recently seen at APM Terminals’ Los Angeles terminal, would hurt the ports, its workers, and surrounding communities.
“This is simply not the time to allow further job losses to automation. Losing jobs to automation not only undermines the long term capacity of our ports, but it does lasting damage on our families,” Adams wrote [.. seen as] further evidence of the union’s single-minded focus on automation. That was seen most clearly in its surprisingly vocal opposition last year to a limited automation project at the APM Terminals Pier 400 facility in Los Angeles despite having agreed years earlier to a collective bargaining agreement that allowed terminals to automate in return for $800 million in additional wages and benefits."[2]
When Tanzania's port is more productive than yours, then it's time to finally move into the 21st century.
[1] https://nypost.com/2021/10/18/to-please-unions-biden-wont-au...
[2] https://www.joc.com/port-news/us-ports/ilwu’s-anti-automatio...
[3] https://ilaunion.org/2021/05/latest-long-beach-terminal-auto...*
Covid and trade war are reasons why automation would hurt the ports? Covid is why automation would hurt the communities? Non-sequitur much?
Covid is why automation would hurt the workers? Not even that. Automation would hurt the workers, maybe, but not because of Covid.
(Though I do see why you might be concerned that a casual reader though I was attributing it to you...)
Notably, all of those are more automated.
Edit: It's not even close to the busiest port in the US: https://www.bts.gov/content/tonnage-top-50-us-water-ports-ra...
"In fact, according to the union's own material, the average dockworker makes $147,000 in annual salary and pulls in $35,000 a year in employer-paid health care benefits. Pensions pay $80,000 a year."
Also,
"The ILWU is demanding 3% annual raises over five years well beyond the average American's personal income — which the shippers have agreed to — and some changes in the arbitration system."
I can't find 2021 data but if they did indeed get their 3% raises then the average total compensation by now is 182*(1.03^5)=211k.
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Another source, also circa 2015: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dockworker-pay-201503...
"About half of West Coast union longshoremen make more than $100,000 a year — some much more, according to shipping industry data. More than half of foremen and managers earn more than $200,000 each year. A few bosses make more than $300,000. All get free healthcare."
https://www.practicaladultinsights.com/how-do-i-become-a-lon...
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dockworker-pay-201503...
They work incredibly socially necessary jobs and they are able to bargain collectively to increase negotiation power, so they seem to be compensated fairly.
Puget Sound, the San Francisco Bay, and southern California are pretty much it. Portland is 100 miles from the ocean; only smaller ships can reach it. Astoria and Eureka have terrible connections on the land side.
You could think about starting a new port at, say, Santa Monica or San Clemente. It could be done. You'd have to build a breakwater, a bunch of piers, and you'd have to buy a huge amount of land for facilities.
How much would it cost to buy, say, 10,000 acres and 20 miles of waterfront in Santa Monica? Yeah, that's why nobody has done it.
Expanding San Diego is about the only workable option.
Good for them.
no, it's not even remotely close to regulatory capture[0]. it's closer to cornering a (labor) market, which has nothing to do with the complicity of regulators here. california labor laws aren't being explicitly and specifically written to favor the longshoremen's union--that would be regulatory capture.
the main reason labor unions came into being is because companies, as they grew beyond human scale, began exerting highly coercive leverage on labor markets, sometimes via regulatory capture. some unions can sometimes exert political power, but that's not a regulatory capture mechanism, that's just regular politics.
Yes, they are. There should be different unions representing each port. The law won’t allow that, giving the ILWU a monopoly on legal port labor.
We live in a market economy with farm and oil subsidies. People can point to the free market all they like as some arbiter of truth, but it ignores the political realities of our world.
Of course, agreements between two groups of people can still be harmful to society. But in the above situation, you would have to get the government to interfere to make those sorts of exclusivity arrangements illegal if you have an issue with them. It's not surprising that in a free market, sometimes employees realize that if they band together they have enough power to negotiate terms that make them near-impossible to fire.
I agree with this. The problem is that today, it's illegal for a company to go with the "lose all of your current employees" approach.
> But in the above situation, you would have to get the government to interfere to make those sorts of exclusivity arrangements illegal if you have an issue with them.
I don't want making deals with unions to become illegal. I just don't want companies to be forced to make deals with them. For example, just because 51% of the employees want to be in a union doesn't mean that they should get to force the other 49% to join, or to force the company to only hire union workers going forward.
https://www.maritimes.gr/images/PORTS/Container-Port-Perform...
Dominated by East Asia (mostly China) at the top.
- nothing in the Reuter's article says what's causing the slow downs
- the twitter thread from the Flexport CEO seems to be giving 2nd hand info that the main cause of delays currently is stuff not getting picked up _from_ the port, which may be more about the situation with trucking, and specifically he says there isn't a work slowdown at the port.
- and we _know_ that the rest of the supply chain, including warehouses and trucks are also under a lot of pressure.
So even if your people and equipment can unload ships quickly, you quickly run out of space unless customers come pick up their stuff. And that doesn't happen unless customer have both (a) trucks/drivers to pick stuff up and (b) warehouses to receive. And crap, what if they have too little warehouse space because they can't ship stuff out bc container ships are sailing back across the Pacific empty? Or because they're full of A which would ordinarily be consumed to produce C, except production has stalled because everyone's missing B because of the messed up supply chain.
The rush to blame stuff on the unions seems to distract from the actual complexities of the current situation.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-ports-supply-chain-fix-c...
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14/1046140284/among-the-countrys...
I saw the Flexport thread and that didn't gel with the countless videos I've seen of traffic jams of trucks, with truckers comparing timestamps on their receipts to see who's spent longer waiting for a box. Just popped in and this was among the first videos: https://www.tiktok.com/@juanolivares05/video/702129087728481...
Maybe it is the truckers, maybe its the port. What I see in any video I've seen, is lines of trucks and boxes not being put on them, haven't seen the opposite.
It wasn't always this way. Walmart used to proudly display banners with 'Made in America' on them.
But as companies left the county, the poor and then the middle class downsized as well.
Companies left looking to lower costs, the public was wooed with lower prices and the idea that you could get more now and the politicians made promises that the affected sectors would be retrained, first we would have a service economy then it became knowledge workers.
It turns out that the service economy is fickle and doesn't pay well for the most part. Not everyone can be a knowledge worker and that is not outsource proof either.
Now we are in a trap where companies can not return because they would have to raise their prices and reduce profits and the people who used to work for them can't afford to buy their products now.
This is the result of illberalism.
Interestingly, studies have found that goods sell for more when they say, for example, "Made in Detroit," as opposed to "Made in the USA."
That keynote is perfectly in line with American principles. It's frightening how homogenous our states have become, and how much power has been taken away from them.
No California and Californians generally don't. They didn't even at the height of their opposition to the Trump Administration. Perhaps unsurprisingly, since advocacy for California separatism was backed by the same foreign interests who intervened in US politics in favor of Trump.
> At least in principle they’re more pro-China than pro-US
This is likewise false.
> Tells you a lot
That you would say it tells me a lot, sure.
> This is likewise false.
Not the above commenter, but there are many, many people in SF that I've personally met who prefer China to the US. They have a disgust towards half of their own country who votes unlike the way they vote, towards anyone religious, towards anyone from a lower-class non-urban background.
I've met plenty of these people in LA and Santa Barbara as well, but in SF it easily feels like a majority.
There seems to be something going wrong in the Anglo countries to be facing such ongoing shortages.
It's remarkable how brazen the actions of the longshoreman's union can be. There are truckers who are retaliated against if they complain, so they are forced to simply endure "slow work" and abusive practices without any way to help correct the situation. This is of course impacting our supply chain and economy at a crucial time when we need to act quickly and bounce back from the pandemic. Given how broadly-scoped and aggressive state and federal mandates have been, why isn't there a mandate to force labor at ports to work like they are supposed to, just like emergency workers?
I have a hunch that if it was "simple" the port owners would have done that a long time ago.
How abusive port trucking operations are. To the point I dare say some of the current shitshow could be the lack of immigrant drivers due to covid to bait into driving.