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Comment by Steko | Hacker News Reader

"You don't see the entropy I've described?"

"They reproduce endlessly, these poor, because poverty, religion and ignorance of birth control are all best friends. Each successive generation ends up just a little more screwed than the last, as pregnancies roll into the mid-teen years, and generations start stacking. Women in their 30's, grandmothers."

No I don't see the same trends you do. The birth rate in African Americans has dropped to near replacement levels over the last 15 years. Teen pregnancy rates have falled over the last 15 years. Entropy is not the correct word to describe this and tv has nothing to do with it.

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>tv has nothing to do with it.

...k? I'm making the case for vapid content on television being symptomatic of declining intelligence/skills. It's not causal.

As to African Americans, well, okay. But my experience surrounds Latinos. In Latino culture, we've got Catholicism encouraging as much reproduction as possible while declaring contraception sinful. There's also a lot of cultural misogyny, which entitles men to take what they want, while robbing women of the agency necessary to assert their own needs. (I was spared all of this because my mom is gay. Who knows how many siblings I'd have otherwise)

I don't really see a way out of that for several more generations at least. And I'm not terribly surprised you don't see those trends – statistically, if you're on Hacker News, you're very unlikely to have had an upbringing where you got to see any of this firsthand. And that's the point.

I don't think mainstream tv content is" dumbed-down" because the poor are getting more ignorant, and the only thing they'll understand is American Idol. It's 1) consuming content passively is the most enjoyable thing to do after long hours of soul-sucking work(escapism),2) Living vicariously through others via a rags-to-riches story(American Idol) gives a misguided and fleeting sense of hope(like lotto tickets), and 3)Learning about other people's problems(eg international news) is depressing when you can't see passed your own troubles. If it helps my point, I alsilo grew up around this environment.

Why would you use firsthand experiences when the actual statistics are freely available?

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