The guide to San Francisco crime data

Does car insurance cover items stolen out of a car?

There are a lot of people for whom this isn't the case: - car owners/homeowners whose deductible is higher than the amount stolen, or who worry about higher future insurance rates by making a claim that is mostly eaten by the deductible - folks who don't have insurance, like students whose laptops are stolen in cafes - international visitors - other tourists who don't realize they need a police report to get insurance coverage, or who don't have insurance - stores like Walgreens who presumably self-insure against theft. I am not an expert, but I would assume most retail self-insures against theft (i.e. does not carry insurance for petty theft). Interested to know if folks think that isn't the case.

I think the data is totally inaccurate. In other places I have lived, I would make a policy report about any crime, expecting the report to generate some good. I wouldn't bother in SF, unless, as you mention, I really expected to file an insurance claim.

Why is it perverse to file a police report so you can file insurance? Why is it perverse to file a police report, even to just make sure that crime statistics are accurate?

Late last year I watched someone swipe an entire shelf of cosmetics/facial products from a downtown Walgreens and saunter out while the clerk yelled at her, "You must feel great about yourself!" And, no, this wasn't a homeless person or drug addict, AFAICT, just a well-groomed 20-something young woman who jumped into a car waiting for her outside.

That Walgreens employee told me that nothing happens. No police report. Nothing except, presumably, a note to corporate. Her sentiments were echoed by another employee at the time. And both explained how much worse things have gotten. They were incredibly pissed because they felt so utterly helpless.

While this was last year, it was at a Walgreens that I've been frequenting for years, and from what I gather from some of the chattier employees, things are still pretty bad, and altogether definitely much worse than before COVID. They have a security guard on duty more often now, but they also have significantly reduced hours.

I find it odd that people expect Walgreens to open up their books to prove the increased theft. In other contexts that's called blaming the victim. And why should I care if Walgreens is taking the opportunity to downsize at the same time? That's the epitome of whataboutism. But in any event, AFAICT, Walgreens and Target have been privately more transparent with some of the local politicians. Public transparency would just be a lose-lose from the perspective of these large corporations, especially in the current media environment where left wing social activists will blame them regardless ("Oh, look at how many millions they've been extracting from our community!") while the right wing will try to further make martyrs out of them--theft notwithstanding, not the kind of public persona these companies want.

Regarding insurance, I wouldn't be surprised if Walgreens and Target self-insure in situations like this. What I do know is that after a spate of burglaries along the commercial strip in my Outer Richmond neighborhood, the local business association (the president is the owner of a restaurant we frequent, and we're on some of her mailing lists) ran a funding drive to help those businesses recover. The implication seemed to be that either the businesses lacked the necessary insurance coverage altogether, or it fell short of what they needed. Which wouldn't at all be surprising to me. (Also wouldn't be surprising if not every business filed a police report. When nearly every business on both sides of the street, up-and-down three+ blocks is burgled in the span of two weeks, what would be the point? Even an insurer might not even care at that point; it'd be like asking each and every claimant to prove an earthquake or hurricane.)

Big corporations are likely self-insured. It wouldn't make much sense for Walgreens to purchase insurance to protect against shoplifting. It's likely just accounted for as inventory shrinkage.

I agree for personal insurance people would file a report, but that assumes the theft exceeded your deductible.

Insurance requires a deductible. It’s not worth filing claims for repeated small thefts. This is why many homeowners don’t bother reporting small package thefts - if the city leadership won’t punish (and deter) crime and if insurance deductibles are higher than the cost of the stolen item, then what’s the point?

One problem is that a stolen iPhone is a >$1000 crime, in fact it passes the $950 threshold to be a felony in California[1]. Police don't have the resources to deal with every stolen phone.

When iPhones were new, my cousin was a police officer in a high school. Every time a kid stole an iPhone it was a felony on their juvenile record, and no one wanted that.

[1] https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-def...

It's not that the police won't bother.. the voters voted to decriminalize it essentially.

Before I left California, I had this argument with many of my liberal friends who did not believe me that their proposition would lead to this despite it stating it quite clearly in the text.

While arguing I was accused of being a right wing conspiracy theorist and spreading fox propaganda.

Now the chickens are home and Californians have no one to blame but themselves.

I think HBO made a 5-season show about this, quite popular, had a name like "the string" or "rope" or something.

That is an unreasonably cynical take on what is happening. Reporting and tracking is always imperfect, but just to point out one improvement the 311 system greatly improved reporting. Getting the most out of police without giving into oppression is never simple, and our incarceration spree has gone beyond what we can actually afford. Sitting back and being angry and playing blame games is not going to get us out of this.

The data disagrees with what I have said, yes. But so did the data of the 1932 Ukrainian harvest and subsequent famine [1]. The Ukranians reported a record harvest, in the same way the SF Chronicle reports "crime is actually way down". I've lived in SF for 12 years, its never been so bad. You see it, you feel it, business are closing because of it. Business data may back up what I have said, you could google walgreens crime stats in SF as an example. Target is another example. Also the 1,000 people who will die due to drug OD are not counted. Why is that?

[1] The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/slavic-review/articl...

Except that men are in a position of power, black men aren't.