It's been 42 years since 'The Hitchhiker's Guide' answered the ultimate question
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The commentary is deeper, the jokes are funnier and the story arc feels a lot less random whilst still being surreal. The scenes at the end of the book with the Golfrinchans is a masterclass in humourous writing with a truly nasty vein of bleakness.
It also features the ultimate question, of course.
As time has only one dimension, counting is the only arithmetical operation, to which all others may be reduced; and yet counting is just intuition or perception a priori, to which there is no hesitation in appealing here, and through which alone everything else, every sum and every equation, is ultimately proved. We prove, for example, not that (7 + 9 × 8 - 2)/3 = 42; but we refer to the pure perception in time, counting thus makes each individual problem an axiom. Instead of the demonstrations that fill geometry, the whole content of arithmetic and algebra is thus simply a method of abbreviating counting. We mentioned above that our immediate perception of numbers in time extends only to about ten. Beyond this an abstract concept of the numbers, fixed by a word, must take the place of the perception; which does not therefore actually occur any longer, but is only indicated in a thoroughly definite manner. Yet even so, by the important assistance of the system of figures which enables us to represent all larger numbers by the same small ones, intuitive or perceptive evidence of every sum is made possible, even where we make such use of abstraction that not only the numbers, but indefinite quantities and whole operations are thought only in the abstract and indicated as so thought, as [sqrt](r^b) so that we do not perform them, but merely symbolise them.
I tried to add this on Wikipedia a while ago, but was overruled by an editor.
Source: https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/38427/pg38427-images.html
More on Schopenhauer: https://www.locserendipity.com/TitleSearch.html?q=Schopen
I think that DNA was satirising the idea of one number, or phrase, or any singular thing being "the" meaning of life—the meaning of life, I like to think he'd think, is life itself, not any minuscule segment of it.
The many interpretations that people can hang on even the most transparently ridiculous of answers is, I believe, part of his point. ("How many roads must a man walk down?" and "what do you get when you multiply six by nine?" as questions I think indicate how seriously he took the answer.)
The problem is that the arithmetic operators only associate left to right if they're the same precedence. The precedence is indicated by the old acronym BEDMAS: Brackets are highest, then Exponentiation, then Division and Multiplication, then Addition and Subtraction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations
So the calculation as written in the original comment is (7 + (9 × 8) - 2)/3 = (7 + 72 - 2) / 3 = 77 / 3 = 25.666...
As the comments here evidence, people read much into it, and the number 42. This is great. I felt books like The Ugly American [0], Honey Badger (Robert Ruark) and King Rat [1] had more to offer. My opinion hasn't much changed - but I feel the problem lies with me, in that depth and meaning are what I value.
Is humour the entirety of the draw for Hitchhiker's Guide, or (probably more likely) have I missed something?
so as an american i shouldn't feel too bad if i don't really get it?
Your question can't be taken in good faith when that's the ground you plant your feet on.
My opinion is that much of what Adams was getting across is that meaning is where and when you find it. Something that means nothing to others can mean the world to you, and vice versa. Other's in this conversation have said much the same thing.
Rather, it seems that the statement is saying that HHTTG lacks depth and meaning for him. (In the context that people like it anyway, but that doesn't imply they don't value depth and meaning; maybe they just like the humor, too, which he doesn't get that much.)
I think, to the extent that it is an argument for that, it is offset by the question "(probably more likely) have I missed something?". That seems to be a clear indication that, since other people here do value it, FourthProtocol thinks it likely that the depth and meaning are there, just that they haven't found them.
(I also think that many of us here, me included, have such an emotional attachment to HHGttG that it's easy to be offended by such statements, whereas clearly subjective statements like "Lisp is ugly and hard to read" and "Haskell is obscure and too obsessed with theory for a practical programmer to use" would, while surely provoking argument, probably not garner such an emotional response even from Lisp and Haskell fans.)
Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 42
The Tao begot one.
One begot two.
Two begot three.
And three begot the ten thousand things.
The ten thousand things carry yin and embrace yang.
They achieve harmony by combining these forces.
Men hate to be "orphaned," "widowed," or "worthless,"
But this is how kings and lords describe themselves.
For one gains by losing
And loses by gaining.
What others teach, I also teach; that is:
"A violent man will die a violent death!"
This will be the essence of my teaching.
(translation by Gia-fu Feng and Jane English)
But that’s ok as I’m sure you like books that others don’t. And you understand things that others don’t.
Adams really was a master of observation. Especially if you consider that many things we take for granted today either didn't exist or were in very early stages (like Internet). Predicting basically "wikipedia on a phone" that far back is mindblowing. And of course, the exaggerared (but still believable) characters are a work of genius.
Maybe give it a second chance if you have spare time?
That said, I only read the last book twice because it makes me depressed. Ymmv of course.
King Rat is a massively underrated masterpiece. Read it in my teens and regularly re-read. Astonishing book.
Back in the day in the UK we learned "times tables" at school as a verbal by rote memorisation technique. For each "times table" you memorised up to "times twelve". And then the teacher might ask you in class the answer for a table you were supposed to have learned.
First one to learn was "two twos are four, three twos are six... twelve twos are twenty four". (I'm writing out the numbers rather than using numerals because this was specifically a spoken recitation).
Then you learned the three times table "two threes are six, three threes are nine, ... twelve threes are thirty six".
The four times table is a selection of the two times table up to "six fours are twenty four" and then the next member "seven fours" is an easy addition from 24 to 28.
The five times table is obvious.
The six times table is a selection of the three times table up till "six sixes are thirty six".
Say that (emboldened by the obviousness of the five times table) you didn't do your homework and verbally memorise the six times table.
And then the teacher asks you what are "seven sixes". You are acutely aware that this isn't in your verbal memory (as it would have been if you had done your homework as instructed). You add 6 to "six sixes" which I calculate as "use 4 to get up to 40 then the other 2 are the units so 42".
You say "seven sixes are forty two". There was a one second panic while you worked this out instead of just reciting the rote memorised fact.
But it's the right answer.
Tension then resolution - that is why 42 is the answer to the ultimate question.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.douglas-adams/c/595nPukE...
> The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binary representations, base thirteen, Tibetan monks are all complete nonsense. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought '42 will do' I typed it out. End of story.
It's perfectly possible this did not apply to Douglas Adams. But a hypothesis around "eek I didn't do my homework but I winged it" seemed plausible for him.
... Alas, it was just a random number he came up with, without any deeper meaning. I was a bit disappointed, although I'm sure he would have found my serious speculation about it extremely funny.
Though, funnily enough, Adams' child was born when both he and his wife were 42! So you might be on to something.
Maybe in Adams' time. These days it takes an entire lifetime to buy a home.
--Spoiler alert-- And the answer 42 turned out to be "What do you get if you multiply six by nine" in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
Marvin talking to the mattress: “I’m roughly a billion times smarter than you. For example, pick a number. Any number.” Mattress: “Ummmm…seven?” Marvin: “Wrong. You see?”
Arthur, while aboard the Heart of Gold, says, “I’m disappointed we never figured out that Ultimate Question business.” Eddie the ship’s computer immediately after says, “Pick a number, any number!”
Given the abilities of each of those characters, it’s a plausible theory. It’s also how the author chose the Answer, so at least at a meta level it is true.
Adams alluded elsewhere to how the march of technology had brought about galactic scale advances in miniaturisation and exponential growth in the capability of technology.
When deep mind designed the earth she probably used the state of the art for that time however many billions of years ago, but Marvin being a more modern device is far more powerful and can do the same calculations trivially.
Furthermore he always claims to be depressed because despite his eminence nobody will listen to what he says, which is indeed ”pick a number any number” which is probably what DNA said to himself when he selected it.
Or to put it another way, how pissed off would you be when you set off to alpha centuri and you arrive to find your bloody grandson vaping and listening to Lil Nas x.
It is infinitely improbable that you would arrive instantly and alive.
Or could just turn to the ol janx spirit ;-)
1) The ultimate question was 6 * 9 = ? and the universe makes no sense at all.
2) The ultimate question was 6 * 7 = ? and the universe has no deeper meaning.
Both are possible, and the ambiguity suggests he wanted to say both.
> > The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binary representations, base thirteen, Tibetan monks are all complete nonsense. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought '42 will do' I typed it out. End of story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker's_...?
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And here we are trying to associate meaning to a random number like we do to all the other random events/things that happen in life.
Like writing an article after 42 years as if it means something.
It does mean something: it gives most of us, who read the book, a nice memory and a smile.
My book starts with underlined words every few lines. I underlined words I did not know at the time I read it the first time.
Well one thing I believe is: `The meaning of life is to find meaning in life`
Another quote I live by is, by Bukowski:
“Find what you love and let it kill you” – Charles Bukowski
I mean it makes sense right? Many people just haven't found their passion and go round like headless chickens!
The stories we make up inside our fish bowls most likely have very little to do with reality.
On the flip side I think the very modern take on "life = experience" can be badly interpreted. The trend is more about consuming experiences and destinations rather the living experiences, you could describe them as commercialized experiences (Disneyland, holiday resorts in very touristic countries, &c.)
Not looking for meaning doesn't mean spending the rest of your life at Disney Land.
Life is fleeting, love is fleeting, everything that means something is fleeting; framing and clinging destroys its essence.
the older I get the more I see the point of living as basically the same as everything in nature - propagate your genes as much possible and give them the best chance of them propagating their genes. Everything else is try and and fun and help humankind
“Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification, but through fidelity to a worthy purpose.” – Helen Keller
“Through love alone can man find the kingdom of heaven for which he has sought since his beginnings. Only through living love as a principle can he find the happiness, peace and prosperity which lie in his heart as the greatest of his desires.” - Walter Russell
Ok, how do you find it? Oh, we don't know again :)
The right answer to 'what is the meaning of life?' is to ask for definitions of terms. What do you mean by 'meaning'? How do you know life has or ought to have such a property, that you'd go looking for it?
In other words, the only right answer to 'when did you stop beating your wife?' is to point out that it is a loaded question aka invalid question, instead of scurrying to try and answer it :)
Meaning of life is a variation of when did you stop beating your wife. One presupposes you did beat your wife, the other presupposes there exist meaning and it is important to find.
Those are unjustified presuppositions.
(He never kept anything super secret in there as far as I know; the lock was just to stop it from opening by accident)
42 is the largest answer to the Diophantine puzzle, solved by using a "world computer"
https://phys.org/news/2019-09-sum-cubes-solvedusing-real-lif...
Douglas Adam's 42 puzzle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker%27...
― Douglas Adams, The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
It was a hyperspace bypass. As far as I am aware that is neither "space" nor a "highway". I guess it is a "kind of space" but I just feel that this is a terrible way to describe it by the authors of the article.
However, I could be wrong, I have been multiple times in the past.
Specifically, the bypass would be a section of roadway that "bypassed" pre-existing routes.
Of course; it could be the same over there :D So my theory could also be wrong.
(phi = golden ratio)
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=137+%2F+%28%28pi+*+e%2...
This is comment 43. I broke it.
I think that 42 rang for him due it’s association with WW2. The type of (particularly British) humour he deploys in his writing is the sort that makes fun of unspoken awkward thoughts and experiences. I reckon it might have been a subtly taboo number due its association with the horrors of WW2 and Adams being of the first adult generation to not experienced the horrors the time might have been right to “make light of” this number.
TL;DR The number 42 maybe did have a significance beyond what he was himself consciously aware of; he describes the process of such exigesis in his books, perhaps also subconsciously!
Huh, what association is that? WWII started in 1939 (or 37 if you consider the second Sino-Japanese war to be part of it) and ended in 45.
I am sorry I ruined it for you.
* GIVEN ...
* the number of (hu)mankind, 3x for emphasis in some contexts where
humans want to stand completely alone, is "666"
* the atom for human is "6"
* the number most often associated with divinity in the bible is "7"
* THEN ...
* the product of interaction of the divine with humanity is 7 * 6 = 42
(of course this firmly puts humanity at the apex of earthly, and perhaps
universal, entities, and many would object)
EDIT: clarification on first GIVEN> Indeed, it is impossible for an observer to see a rainbow from water droplets at any angle other than the customary one of 42 degrees from the direction opposite the light source.
(but btw. the parent comment was a reference to the book, where someone tried to come up with a fake question, matching the answer)
and 12 disciples of Jesus?
and ten commandments?
It's real confusing.
maybe what it means since there's seven horsemen of the Apocalypse and six is the number for the human...7*6=42.
Maybe it means the horseman of the apocalypse and the human beings are going to be friends and the humans can get a ride on the back of the cool apocalypse horses.
Numerology has been heavily used by the Torah and the Bible.
According to the Talmud, there are meanings behind numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significance_of_numbers_in_Jud...
So, 6 (days of creation) * 7 (completion) = 42 (one of the letter in one of the name of God)
Or any other combinations you want, because numerology has no true meaning. It's just playing with numbers.